Stu
Jul 20 2011, 07:47 PM
So far!
Please, Sunspot, cheer up!
djellison
Jul 20 2011, 07:51 PM
QUOTE (Sunspot @ Jul 20 2011, 12:44 PM)
grrr, one pancam image with bad data drop outs
Seriously - after 7.5 years of rover operations - have you not gained a single ounce of patience with which to deal with the intricacies and challenges involved in exploring another world?
I don't think anyone has an avatar that suits their forum persona less than you
Phil Stooke
Jul 20 2011, 07:56 PM
Peering into the abyss (if ustrax will forgive the expression) - now I only need to stretch by a factor of five, not like the old days!
Phil
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Seryddwr
Jul 20 2011, 08:23 PM
Hi folks, long time lurker, first time poster. Just a big thank you to all those out there who are sifting through the images sent down to us on Mars for the benefit of UMSF members. Watching Oppy's progress over the past year or two has been a humbling experience - a testament to the engineers, mission planners, rover drivers, and everyone involved.
Almost there now!
marsophile
Jul 20 2011, 09:00 PM
Looking at the farside rim after crossing the plains makes me think of the American settlers in their prairie wagons having their first sightings of the majestic Rocky Mountains.
Robert S
Jul 20 2011, 10:02 PM
Incredible! So we are THAT close ALREADY??? Thought the trip from Santa Maria to Endeavourcrater would take 2 years!
Did oppy stop by a gas-station or something?
No, seriously, I have a question actually. Does anyone know Oppys current all-time-record of driving in one day?
I have seen numbers like 160 meters in one day, but anyone know the record?
Thanks, and also, totally agree with everything Seryddwr wrote!
// Robert
kenny
Jul 20 2011, 10:18 PM
Robert, I have 180m or so in my mind but others will know better. Good to see that new followers are inspired enough to speak up, as we approach such an exciting revelation....
KrisK
Jul 20 2011, 10:22 PM
QUOTE (Robert S @ Jul 21 2011, 12:02 AM)
No, seriously, I have a question actually. Does anyone know Oppys current all-time-record of driving in one day?
I have seen numbers like 160 meters in one day, but anyone know the record?
One day forward drive record: 220m, Sol 410 (March 20, 2005)
Floyd
Jul 21 2011, 01:54 AM
Hay everyone, the images are down--both navcam and pancam--They are fantastic!!!!
eampleYou all were saying how excited you were for the images to come down--well you have to keep checking every 6 hours
Where are US west coast UMSFers????
Astro0
Jul 21 2011, 02:08 AM
Well, east coast Aussie UMSF'ers are here
Great view from Pancam - Sol2661
Click to view attachmentBonus: Animated gif explaining near/far horizons and crater rim/interior for anyone not sure.
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fredk
Jul 21 2011, 02:32 AM
Some west coast Canadians, too!
I love this navcam view:
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...0M1.JPG?sol2661Following the horizon from the right across to the far horizon on the left, you get a nice sense that we're starting to plunge into a huge crater! Here's a Philovision version to exagerate the effect:
Click to view attachmentI think we'll need another 100 metre drive (or two) before we'll start seeing CY...
ElkGroveDan
Jul 21 2011, 02:33 AM
QUOTE (Floyd @ Jul 20 2011, 06:54 PM)
Where are US west coast UMSFers????
Crikey, thanks mate. I had to mosey on down to the corral but it looks like I got back just in time for the hoedown. Stu will be getting up for work shortly and this will make his day.
That's a really useful gif Astro0 amazing work in such a short time.
walfy
Jul 21 2011, 02:35 AM
In today's 3D the local sand field on the rim-top ends just within the range of perceptible 3D, and Endeavor's opposite side falls back from that, giving a sense of the opening void in store for us all!
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Astro0
Jul 21 2011, 03:30 AM
That's an awesome anaglyph Walfy!
As we get closer to Endeavour, I was reminded of something someone
said long ago
fredk
Jul 21 2011, 04:45 AM
The lovely SE view in stereo:
Click to view attachmentThe terrain's looking a bit bumpy in the foreground...
Stu
Jul 21 2011, 05:19 AM
Tesheiner
Jul 21 2011, 06:43 AM
Hey Stu, I think "Approach Crater" now has an official name: Mariner9.
02662::p1973::03::6::0::0::6::0::12::navcam_mariner9_3x1_az_126_3_bpp
Tesheiner
Jul 21 2011, 07:33 AM
Here's yestersol navcam mosaic with Mariner9 / Approach Crater to the left.
Click to view attachment
Phil Stooke
Jul 21 2011, 01:37 PM
... and for comparison, here's the first image ever taken of Endeavour crater. Coming up to its anniversary!
Phil
Click to view attachment(PS just finished text edits of the Mars book... but it stops at Mars Express. The next one will continue with MER)
Sunspot
Jul 21 2011, 01:40 PM
We have arrived at Mariner 9
Tesheiner
Jul 21 2011, 01:51 PM
Today's batch of images include this one exposing another big crater on the far rim to the right of the one we already knew from a long time.
Click to view attachmentOriginal:
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...T6P2367L2M2.JPGAnd, BTW, I'm pretty sure about seeing CY on one of the navcams; unfortunately is has been censored.
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...T6P1973L0M1.JPG
fredk
Jul 21 2011, 01:58 PM
What's this?
Click to view attachment3x Philovision:
Click to view attachmentAfter many false alarms, I'm hesitant to declare it CY, but this is the most promising target yet!
jamescanvin
Jul 21 2011, 02:04 PM
Yeah I wouldn't want to say for sure but maybe, just maybe...
pgrindrod
Jul 21 2011, 02:17 PM
Let's see if I can get any more mileage out of my visibility map...
According to my reckoning Oppy should be just, and I mean just (~5 m) inside the visibility range of Cape York. As usual, green is visible from the summit of Cape York, red isn't.
Click to view attachmentSo I think it's possible that Cape York has just started to rise up into view.
Got to admit that the view is even more gobsmacking than I imagined. Brilliant stuff.
Pete
EDIT: should say, that red dot is Sol 2661 position
Phil Stooke
Jul 21 2011, 02:22 PM
Could be! - GM says it's the right direction for the most prominent 'summit' of the Cape.
Phil
Tesheiner
Jul 21 2011, 02:29 PM
Some time ago, on one of the previous "false alarms", I did
this exercise. And repeating it again I got the following result. The heading is slightly off the highest peaks of CY but the images I'm using as reference might probably have a slight "distortion".
Click to view attachmentI say "yes" too!
Stu
Jul 21 2011, 02:32 PM
Hmmm.... very, very interesting... I so want that to be it... perhaps the tallest spires of the Emerald City
are starting to peek above the horizon...
fredk
Jul 21 2011, 02:46 PM
Actually, Tesheiner, looking at the fantastic contour map Pete just posted, your 118.5 heading line seems to sit right at the summit of CY! I checked the width of the new feature - about 3 degrees - and that matches pretty well with what we'd expect for the flatter region around the summit:
Click to view attachmentThis is looking very promising!
ElkGroveDan
Jul 21 2011, 02:47 PM
QUOTE (pgrindrod @ Jul 21 2011, 07:17 AM)
Let's see if I can get any more mileage out of my visibility map...
Nice work Pete. I bet you feel like Einstein did after the 1919 eclipse.
Tesheiner
Jul 21 2011, 03:00 PM
QUOTE (fredk @ Jul 21 2011, 04:46 PM)
This is looking very promising!
Absolutely!
I ever thought the highest point was the following one (see the arrow), but now looking to the contour lines on Pete's map in detail I realise that was a wrong assumption.
Click to view attachmentThe highest point (a sort of plateau, actually) is dead on the right heading!
Robert S
Jul 21 2011, 03:06 PM
QUOTE (KrisK @ Jul 21 2011, 12:22 AM)
One day forward drive record: 220m, Sol 410 (March 20, 2005)
Thank you Kenny and Krisk!!!
Ant103
Jul 21 2011, 03:10 PM
That. Just AMAZING. And says that it will be
even better ! I have the excitements of the first times. The times when Oppy was heading to Endurance crater, and Victoria.
Sol 2660
Sol 2661
I've also made this "phil-o-vision" with a little bit of wavelett sharpen. We can clearly see the shape of the crater now.
Click to view attachmentWe can see a third crater on the floor of Endeavour.
"A crater within a crater. Two levels". Ahh, Inception…And yes, I think this is CY we can see on the "horizon".
kenny
Jul 21 2011, 03:13 PM
Phil,
That was a wonderful post of the old Mariner 6 image of Endeavour. Perhaps like you, as a youngster, I remember those pictures coming in and seeing them in the newspapers and New Scientist and Scientific American. I never imagined I'd be studying them again in detail 42 years on... !
Phil Stooke
Jul 21 2011, 03:36 PM
Right Kenny - I remember the newspapers saying it was 'our next destination', coming as it did only a week after Apollo 11 returned to Earth. Sic Transit Gloria Mundi!
Phil
cschmidt
Jul 21 2011, 03:44 PM
QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jul 21 2011, 09:47 AM)
Nice work Pete. I bet you feel like Einstein did after the 1919 eclipse.
Hilarious!
Great news on the probable first sighting of CY.
This is I suppose obvious now, but why was I so surprised to see the far rim
and plains beyond? (Stu nailed it in his mockup.)
The arc of Endeavor's rim as it makes its path 'round the way into the distance from afar makes for a beautiful geometry, aching to be explored.
Of counsel
Jul 21 2011, 03:49 PM
fredk, pgrindrod, Tesheiner --in fact, all of you-- you are the reason we keep coming back to UMSF. Very impressive work.
Land ahoy!
MoreInput
Jul 21 2011, 05:12 PM
I hope with the next drive we see more than one pixel row. And hopefully it is CY, but I am sceptical..
algorimancer
Jul 21 2011, 05:20 PM
QUOTE (MoreInput @ Jul 21 2011, 11:12 AM)
... sceptical..
Well, based on the DEM rendering, this is pretty much exactly what I would expect to see. Sadly, no towering peaks, and I think it will be most obvious once Oppy is on it or on the east side of it rather than on the approach.
Phil Stooke
Jul 21 2011, 06:24 PM
Slam on the brakes! There's quite a collection of cobbles over here...
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...T6P1973R0M1.JPG(kidding...)
Phil
Stu
Jul 21 2011, 06:59 PM
Yup... cobbles galore...
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fredk
Jul 21 2011, 07:16 PM
A bit of info (and a nod to our Stu!) explaining the recent short drive over at the new
insider's blog:QUOTE
For sol 2662, it was a combination of the science team wanting to stop short for the next crater set [Stu: it's named Mariner 9! They have a name!] and being limited by the data that had been downlinked by the time the drive needed to be planned.
walfy
Jul 21 2011, 11:28 PM
Managed to tease out this pan-cam 3D from today's downlink (R-hand image had very poor contrast).
One big hole coming up! (Though probably more a dusty and dune-rippled plain, flat and wide. With a touch of terraforming, perhaps one day a prairie
).
Click to view attachment
Ant103
Jul 21 2011, 11:37 PM
A part of the upcomming pan (I think).
Isn't it a part of Iazu Crater we can see at the right part of the pan, behind the hills of the south rim of Endeavour ?
Astro0
Jul 22 2011, 01:05 AM
If those
headings are correct then I think I'm ready to call....LAND HO!!
Super stretched animated gif:
Click to view attachmentThe wider view animated gif:
Click to view attachment
Phil Stooke
Jul 22 2011, 01:55 AM
Right - that can't be anything but Cape York now!
Phil
elakdawalla
Jul 22 2011, 05:45 AM
Wow, those triangular peaks to the south are really popping up too. Are they all part of Cape Tribulation?
jamescanvin
Jul 22 2011, 07:35 AM
I haven't had the time to do a proper feature comparison (yet) but I would guess that those are part to the south-west rim quite a way beyond Cape Trib.
EDIT: Actually looking again, I'm inclined to change my mind. They probably are the very nearest peaks of the Cape Trib range that point toward Cape York.
Sunspot
Jul 22 2011, 07:41 AM
QUOTE (Astro0 @ Jul 22 2011, 02:05 AM)
If those
headings are correct then I think I'm ready to call....LAND HO!!
Shouldn't it appear darker than that though? The further away features are, the lighter they appear because of the atmosphere. It looks lighter than the peaks around Cape Tribulation.
Tesheiner
Jul 22 2011, 08:12 AM
The colors are not absolute and may (and actually do) change from one image to another; remember that these are JPEGs where the brightness / contrast may be completely different from the original IMG pictures, so I would not compare the exact darkness of CY on that picture with CT on another one. If they were on the same pancam picture that would be a different story.
Besides, can you point a different feature on that (or similar) heading between CY and the far rim? There's no one.
Stu
Jul 22 2011, 08:31 AM
Overview...
Click to view attachmentNope, nuttin obvious either between us and where CY should appear, or between CY and the far rim... there is a rise on the crater floor in that direction, but pretty sure it's not high enough to obscure the crater visible above what we're thinking is CY...
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