pmetschan
Nov 14 2014, 10:54 PM
So are they actually attempting to dislodge it from the side of the cliff? In other words "push" it out farther "away" from the cliff into a flat area? or are they just rotating the main body on the legs?
Marvin
Nov 14 2014, 10:54 PM
From ESA operations:
Lander now performing 'lift & turn' of the main body on the landing gear - will last about 10 mins. telecomm link is good ESA OPS
warddw
Nov 14 2014, 10:55 PM
QUOTE (pmetschan @ Nov 14 2014, 10:54 PM)
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So are they actually attempting to dislodge it from the side of the cliff? In other words "push" it out farther "away" from the cliff into a flat area? or are they just rotating the main body on the legs?
my understanding was rotation only but...
warddw
Nov 14 2014, 11:02 PM
35 degree rotation achieved... no idea on power state yet - someone said better is good - but no idea for how much longer - have to hope one of the bigger panels is now oriented...
MarsInMyLifetime
Nov 14 2014, 11:04 PM
Emily's tweets are gripping news. I haven't been this much on edge since watching Europa Report (another Last Comm Chance type story!). Visit
https://twitter.com/elakdawalla -- the updates will appear without refreshing the page.
pmetschan
Nov 14 2014, 11:04 PM
There was talk this morning about using the fly-wheel to perhaps get it into a better spot since the situation with the battery is so dire. Just wasn't sure if this was that move or not.
stevelu
Nov 14 2014, 11:04 PM
Sounds like a bit of both.
They've said before that any mechanical motion might cause Philae to shift in the light gravity. Also, if the drill made contact earlier (sounds good so far) it may also have shifted things a bit. Crossing fingers & toes for more sun... Just imagine if we could get more & better panoramas! (& additional science of course) from this rugged area!
warddw
Nov 14 2014, 11:08 PM
Ptolemy measurement started...so hopefully material was successfully delivered...sure wish they would give battery and panel state but we have to wait for the radio delay...
Jorn Barger
Nov 14 2014, 11:13 PM
QUOTE (Jorn Barger @ Nov 14 2014, 04:31 PM)
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if you draw a straight line thru those two points, where does it cross the blue diamond?
I think the blue diamond is around 2 o'clock, while the 'moving pixel' is more like 4 o'clock, right?
Rakhir
Nov 14 2014, 11:14 PM
QUOTE (warddw @ Nov 15 2014, 12:08 AM)
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Ptolemy measurement started...so hopefully material was successfully delivered...sure wish they would give battery and panel state but we have to wait for the radio delay...
The Ptolemy measurement in progress is not from the drill.
The drill sample went to COSAC.
Tweet @Philae_Ptolemy : OK, to be clear, Ptolemy *is* trying to measure a sample but not from the drill.
warddw
Nov 14 2014, 11:14 PM
"Stefan Ulamec: We have energy, we got data. We got all the housekeeping data including all the COSAC data. No idea what's in there."
Bjorn Jonsson
Nov 14 2014, 11:15 PM
Regarding the battery, I saw this interesting tweet from Emily a few minutes ago:
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Elevation is done and rotation is done, so movement has completed. Battery is "good" (not sure what that means).
At the very least this is not bad news.
QUOTE (MarsInMyLifetime @ Nov 14 2014, 11:04 PM)
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Emily's tweets are gripping news. I haven't been this much on edge since watching Europa Report (another Last Comm Chance type story!). Visit
https://twitter.com/elakdawalla -- the updates will appear without refreshing the page.
This has probably been the most exciting and 'biggest' edge-of-the-seat mission I have ever followed.
tolis
Nov 14 2014, 11:21 PM
Even if the lander aspect change due to the rotation is not enough to
keep it alive, it may improve the chances of it waking up later on when the comet
is closer to perihelion.
What a rollercoaster ride this has been (so far!). These must be the ``Days
of High Adventure'' that the storyteller in "Conan" was talking about
(you won't understand this reference unless you've been a teenager in the 80s)
stevelu
Nov 14 2014, 11:24 PM
QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Nov 14 2014, 03:15 PM)
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Regarding the battery, I saw this interesting tweet from Emily a few minutes ago: ... "Battery is 'good'"
Most hopeful clue I have seen is that @esaoperations retweeted that specific, albeit enigmatic, tweet
https://twitter.com/esaoperations/status/533394723919396867
warddw
Nov 14 2014, 11:28 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2cE23wCMAEhV4U.jpg:largevoltage drop...ouch...slight upturn though...cross your fingers..
Marvin
Nov 14 2014, 11:30 PM
QUOTE (warddw @ Nov 14 2014, 07:28 PM)
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2cE23wCMAEhV4U.jpg:largevoltage drop...ouch...slight upturn though...cross your fingers..
Still > zero, and they're doing a lot of stuff.
Marvin
Nov 14 2014, 11:33 PM
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Landing gear on @Philae2014 lifted 4 cm & main body rotation complete. Ptolemy carousel rotated; housekeeping data are down
ESA OPS
warddw
Nov 14 2014, 11:36 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2cGPAtIYAASDMO.jpg:largemain bus dropping fast now...could go offline at any time...
machi
Nov 14 2014, 11:38 PM
QUOTE (chemman @ Nov 12 2014, 10:20 PM)
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Scientists at DPS14 discussing your image
https://twitter.com/maxmutchlerCool!
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Fantastic work with the landing site location, Machi!
Phil
Thanks!
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...
Is there a source for the two ROLIS images in this montage yet (beyond "random unsourced tweets")?
Are either of them from the
CNES webcast? (Anyone got some time offsets for "good bits" in that?)
It was via twitter from the CNES. I actually got email from some guy at ESA where i took those images!
CNES is very "partisan" organization (in a good way) in some matters!
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...
This has probably been the most exciting and 'biggest' edge-of-the-seat mission I have ever followed.
It definitely is! I have now six twitter windows opened. What a thrill with the drill!
warddw
Nov 14 2014, 11:40 PM
So long Philae....milk it to the last second and transmit as much as you can...
warddw
Nov 14 2014, 11:43 PM
21.5 volts...any time now...it may come back or it may not...just have to see how much it uplinked...
warddw
Nov 14 2014, 11:46 PM
MarsInMyLifetime
Nov 14 2014, 11:47 PM
Slow clap...
warddw
Nov 14 2014, 11:48 PM
transmitting to the end....467 Ptolemy packets...
warddw
Nov 14 2014, 11:51 PM
Link still good - downloading to the bitter end...
warddw
Nov 14 2014, 11:53 PM
Link lost for one minute and resumed...
Marvin
Nov 14 2014, 11:54 PM
QUOTE (warddw @ Nov 14 2014, 07:51 PM)
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Link still good - downloading to the bitter end...
Yup, I can't even imagine how they feel as they race to get as much data back as possible.
warddw
Nov 14 2014, 11:57 PM
Another image
RT @Philae2014: Just completed another ROLIS image! That means that I've imaged 3 different spots on the comet!
stevelu
Nov 15 2014, 12:03 AM
QUOTE (warddw @ Nov 14 2014, 03:57 PM)
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That means that I've imaged 3 different spots on the comet!
I'm confused about the 3 diff spots rather than 2. Weren't all the first ROLIS images of the intended landing spot? Are there others, not yet released? Has Philae been confirmed to have moved again recently?
warddw
Nov 15 2014, 12:03 AM
tolis
Nov 15 2014, 12:04 AM
QUOTE (stevelu @ Nov 15 2014, 12:03 AM)
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I'm confused about the 3 diff spots rather than 2. Weren't all the first ROLIS images of the intended landing spot? Are there others, not yet released? Has Philae been confirmed to have moved again recently?
This may be a reference to the site of Bounce #2.
Marvin
Nov 15 2014, 12:05 AM
QUOTE (warddw @ Nov 14 2014, 08:03 PM)
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Amazing, maybe the rotation maneuver worked and is providing more solar energy?
warddw
Nov 15 2014, 12:07 AM
QUOTE (Marvin @ Nov 15 2014, 01:05 AM)
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Amazing, maybe the rotation maneuver worked and is providing more solar energy?
Don't think so with the main bus in free fall voltage wise...it may be getting more light but unless they seriously reduce power consumption I think we are watching the swan song... just have to hope it wakes up again at some point...
Rakhir
Nov 15 2014, 12:09 AM
QUOTE (stevelu @ Nov 15 2014, 01:03 AM)
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I'm confused about the 3 diff spots rather than 2. Weren't all the first ROLIS images of the intended landing spot? Are there others, not yet released? Has Philae been confirmed to have moved again recently?
After having rotated 35°, ROLIS is imaging another spot.
MarsInMyLifetime
Nov 15 2014, 12:10 AM
QUOTE (stevelu @ Nov 14 2014, 06:03 PM)
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I'm confused about the 3 diff spots rather than 2. Weren't all the first ROLIS images of the intended landing spot? Are there others, not yet released? Has Philae been confirmed to have moved again recently?
ROLIS can take multiple images, and some have been withheld. The phone photo of a ROLIS image on a monitor was not authorized for release, for example. I'm fairly certain they mean the three touchdown locations, the last one being of the region below the famous panorama we've been looking at.
warddw
Nov 15 2014, 12:10 AM
45 minutes left in uplink session...don't think it will last that long but we will see..
4th rock from the sun
Nov 15 2014, 12:11 AM
http://www.cnes.fr/web/CNES-fr/11557-gp-de...ama-de-civa.phpGood source of the original panorama images and good explanation.
In French yes but easily readable.
warddw
Nov 15 2014, 12:20 AM
vikingmars
Nov 15 2014, 12:23 AM
QUOTE (warddw @ Nov 15 2014, 01:20 AM)
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It's Jean-Pierre Bibring on the right !
machi
Nov 15 2014, 12:24 AM
QUOTE (stevelu @ Nov 15 2014, 01:03 AM)
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I'm confused about the 3 diff spots rather than 2. Weren't all the first ROLIS images of the intended landing spot? Are there others, not yet released? Has Philae been confirmed to have moved again recently?
1 spot - the first landing site.
2 spot - terrain under lander in the final landing site.
3 spot - terrain under lander in the final landing site after rotation 35° (ROLIS has off-axis FOV).
ROLIS probably (almost certainly) did not imaged second and third landing site in the descent mode because this wasn't part of the program.
polaris
Nov 15 2014, 12:27 AM
QUOTE (vikingmars @ Nov 15 2014, 01:23 AM)
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It's Jean-Pierre Bibring on the right !
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Yep !
MahFL
Nov 15 2014, 12:29 AM
If the panorama had been within minutes of touch down the pics would have been a lot different !
polaris
Nov 15 2014, 12:30 AM
Lander has switched to stand by due to low power. All instruments off. Comm link still active...
Sweet dreams !
climber
Nov 15 2014, 12:30 AM
End of primary mission.
MarsInMyLifetime
Nov 15 2014, 12:32 AM
Fatboy Slim: Praise you like I should
http://youtu.be/ruAi4VBoBSM
Marvin
Nov 15 2014, 12:39 AM
All science data got uploaded.
chrislintott
Explorer1
Nov 15 2014, 12:39 AM
It ain't over until its over. But just in case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHcunREYzNYWhat a ride!
Let's hope for a perihelion miracle... or that darned outcrop sublimating away.
PDP8E
Nov 15 2014, 01:07 AM
nail biting and thrilling!
Thanks to all at ESA and those on the forum for their images and commentary over the last day.
neo56
Nov 15 2014, 01:08 AM
QUOTE (warddw @ Nov 15 2014, 01:20 AM)
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In the middle is Wlodek Kofman, PI of Consert instrument. I was in his lab IPAG when I was a PhD student :-)
gpurcell
Nov 15 2014, 01:25 AM
Major congratulations to everyone involved! Great job of improvising in a very difficult situation and thanks for inviting us along for the ride.
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