Sunspot
Aug 27 2011, 03:42 PM
And what do the geologists here make of that?
Eutectic
Aug 27 2011, 05:49 PM
QUOTE (Sunspot @ Aug 27 2011, 09:42 AM)
And what do the geologists here make of that?
Just pointing out what's easily observable, not interpreting lithology. The vein runs suspiciously close to the division between the thin upper layers and more massive portion. Seeing fresh surfaces would be helpful but might be hard on the RAT.
Parts of this rock remind me of lavasicles I've seen in lava tubes, but he resemblance is coincidental, since the features here were sculpted by wind. It's hard not to speculate on what this rock is made of. Basaltic breccia, basalt overlain by ignimbrite or sulfates or distal ejecta layers -- bring on the APXS and MI and RAT.
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spiritofgusev
Aug 27 2011, 05:52 PM
QUOTE (Sunspot @ Aug 27 2011, 04:42 PM)
And what do the geologists here make of that?
Not a geologist, but simultaneously shattered and melted is what it looks like.
Matt Lenda
Aug 27 2011, 06:20 PM
QUOTE (Eutectic @ Aug 27 2011, 10:49 AM)
Just pointing out what's easily observable, not interpreting lithology. The vein runs suspiciously close to the division between the thin upper layers and more massive portion. Seeing fresh surfaces would be helpful but might be hard on the RAT.
Parts of this rock remind me of lavasicles I've seen in lava tubes, but he resemblance is coincidental, since the features here were sculpted by wind. It's hard not to speculate on what this rock is made of. Basaltic breccia, basalt overlain by ignimbrite or sulfates or distal ejecta layers -- bring on the APXS and MI and RAT.
Click to view attachmentmmmmm... How we yearn for a RAT hole!
I actually think we'll be foregoing the use of the RAT for a bit. The scientists seem to want to save it for a phyllosilicate target further to the northeast on CY.
-m
Hungry4info
Aug 27 2011, 06:46 PM
QUOTE (stevesliva @ Aug 25 2011, 04:49 PM)
Is the rock named Tisdale, or Ti
nsdale. I keep seeing different spellings thrown around.
Tesheiner
Aug 27 2011, 07:45 PM
A quick google search results on a lot of references to Tisdale and Munro but none to Tinsdale. Bet for the former.
QUOTE (Matt Lenda @ Aug 27 2011, 08:20 PM)
I actually think we'll be foregoing the use of the RAT for a bit. The scientists seem to want to save it for a phyllosilicate target further to the northeast on CY.
Since Tisdale seems to be a basalt rock, I think it would to be too much stress to the RAT on its current condition.
walfy
Aug 27 2011, 08:09 PM
The recent Tisdale image(s) in 3D
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walfy
Aug 27 2011, 08:21 PM
Wow, this just arrived: a beautiful shot of Tisdale 1.
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Stu
Aug 27 2011, 08:24 PM
Phil Stooke
Aug 27 2011, 08:28 PM
"A quick google search results on a lot of references to Tisdale and Munro but none to Tinsdale."
But check out post #338 above... Google's not as reliable as it used to be.
I think Tisdale must be correct, but confirmation would be nice.
Phil
walfy
Aug 27 2011, 08:31 PM
QUOTE (Stu @ Aug 27 2011, 12:24 PM)
Very nice! That looks like Kidd Creek, according to Tesheiner's reference image several posts ago.
Stu
Aug 27 2011, 08:59 PM
Tisdale 1, looking good...
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serpens
Aug 27 2011, 11:49 PM
QUOTE (spiritofgusev @ Aug 27 2011, 05:52 PM)
Not a geologist, but simultaneously shattered and melted is what it looks like.
That's not a bad definition of a suevite.
Juramike
Aug 28 2011, 12:44 AM
"scattered, smothered, and covered" (then exhumed).
Jam Butty
Aug 28 2011, 01:00 AM
Tisdale 1
pancam sol 2694
flicker gif...
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Jam Butty
Aug 28 2011, 01:13 AM
Ridout
navcam sol 2695
flicker gif
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Matt Lenda
Aug 28 2011, 04:32 AM
QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Aug 27 2011, 01:28 PM)
"A quick google search results on a lot of references to Tisdale and Munro but none to Tinsdale."
But check out post #338 above... Google's not as reliable as it used to be.
I think Tisdale must be correct, but confirmation would be nice.
Phil
Tisdale
-m
Reckless
Aug 28 2011, 08:08 AM
Jam Butty
Thanks for the Great flicker gifs the're the only thing that works for me I love that Tisdale 1 above.
Please keep them coming
Roy F
Stu
Aug 28 2011, 10:18 AM
Tisdale 1 looks very interesting, doesn't it..?
Click to view attachment(from new blog post, with too many images to post here, take a look if you like:
http://roadtoendeavour.wordpress.com/2011/.../rocky-round-up )
jvandriel
Aug 28 2011, 11:09 AM
BrianL
Aug 28 2011, 01:35 PM
QUOTE (Reckless @ Aug 28 2011, 02:08 AM)
Jam Butty
Thanks for the Great flicker gifs the're the only thing that works for me I love that Tisdale 1 above.
Please keep them coming
Roy F
Hi Roy,
I have the same problem with anaglyphs, so I have been generating my own flickers using
GIFMAKEJust upload the left and right images from exploratorium and you can turn any shot into a 3D experience.
Stu
Aug 28 2011, 02:22 PM
3D animation of Oppy studying Tisdale 2...
Click to view attachment(That GIFMAKE site's really useful, thanks!)
Stu
Aug 28 2011, 03:48 PM
I wish I knew more about geology, then I could appreciate the science behind these beautiful rocks... but I don't, so trying to capture/portray their own visual beauty will have to suffice...
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mhoward
Aug 28 2011, 05:40 PM
The one on the left is "Tisdale 5". On the right is "Pacaud". (I'm surprised they didn't call it Tisdale 6.)
I think this may be the best rock garden ever.
Stu
Aug 28 2011, 05:49 PM
QUOTE (mhoward @ Aug 28 2011, 06:40 PM)
The one on the left is "Tisdale 5". On the right is "Pacaud". (I'm surprised they didn't call it Tisdale 6.)
I think this may be the best rock garden ever.
Thanks for clarifying those names, I had got Pacaud but not t'other one.
I agree, this is a beautiful, beautiful place. It's become a cliche, I know, but this really is like a whole new mission.
Edit: new map released by NASA*...
Click to view attachment* not really
nprev
Aug 28 2011, 06:47 PM
Outstanding work all around, Stu!!!
Signed,
Sir Nicholas "Nick" Tisdale XLVIII
mhoward
Aug 28 2011, 07:07 PM
One mistake there: Tisdale 16 is "Pacaud". Otherwise, great!
Stu
Aug 28 2011, 07:35 PM
Hey, it's NASA's map, don't blame me...
I really was starting to lose track, so I've been working on this today...
"The Rocks of Spirit Point"...
Click to view attachmentNote: not shown to scale, and not claiming the colours are accurate, ok? Just a pretty pic (I think!) created for my own - and hopefully some other members' - enjoyment.
MoreInput
Aug 28 2011, 07:38 PM
Wonderful, Stu.
This place reminds me on a graveyard, and I begin to think how may "Tisdales" are buried here ...
Reckless
Aug 28 2011, 09:01 PM
Stu your pictures get better and better.
My Giffing skills today are non-existant tryed BrianLs Gifmake couldn't get it to work by either the URL method or uploading from my computer.
Jam Buttys Gif program had some results but oblong images stayed square and horizontally compressed.
mhoward
Aug 28 2011, 09:32 PM
Just messing around: a false-color anaglyph of Tisdale 1 (sol 2694).
walfy
Aug 28 2011, 09:39 PM
Thanks, Stu, that is a great reference.
By the way, for those of you without 3D glasses, here's another way to make your own 3D "flickers" with your web browser. Copy and paste the URL for both left and right images and put both of them in the same web browser window, in successive order. (Make sure you hit return or enter key after each pasting so each one downloads). After that find the keyboard shortcuts for the "back" button and the "forward" buttons of your web browser. On my Mac, using Firefox (It's the same in Safari), that would be Command-left bracket and Command-right bracket. I found the keyboard shortcut in the "History" menu. By holding down the Command key and toggling the left and right bracket keys, you can flicker to your heart's content at the speed you choose.
Reckless
Aug 28 2011, 10:18 PM
Thanks Walfy
I'm using the web browser idea with left and right buttons on the top of my Dell keyboard to toggle back and forth.
Back to continual lurk mode.
Roy F
eoincampbell
Aug 28 2011, 11:46 PM
Brilliant reference Stu, either it 'T'is or it 'Tis'n't
Gladstoner
Aug 29 2011, 08:50 AM
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Stu
Aug 29 2011, 11:14 AM
That's more like it...
Kidd Creek v2...
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walfy
Aug 29 2011, 04:25 PM
Stu
Aug 29 2011, 05:54 PM
Hi-res 3D view of Pacaud...
Click to view attachmentFlat 'n splashy at the same time.
Fascinating, Captain...
Some mineralogical musings here...
http://roadtoendeavour.wordpress.com/2011/...-praise-of-rock
Stu
Aug 29 2011, 07:49 PM
walfy
Aug 29 2011, 08:01 PM
QUOTE (Stu @ Aug 29 2011, 11:49 AM)
One of the best ever! Loving that big square block of a rock!
Stu
Aug 29 2011, 08:10 PM
That was just - excuse the pun - cobbled together. The finished one should be... unbelievable...
MoreInput
Aug 29 2011, 08:48 PM
Wonderful. After all these years, a totally new landscape, everything is different here.
I also like the view to the small hill in the background left. Is this a part of Cape York? (I think so)
ngunn
Aug 29 2011, 10:01 PM
We are definitely in the sculpture park and those rocks are surely posing for the cameras. Well cobbled Stu.
Stu
Aug 29 2011, 10:07 PM
Thanks. Better version here...
http://twitpic.com/6d9e68/fullWhat a stunning place
Nirgal
Aug 29 2011, 10:42 PM
QUOTE (Stu @ Aug 30 2011, 12:07 AM)
Thanks. Better version here...
Fascinating.
What an iconic Alien Rock Garden image !
Jam Butty
Aug 29 2011, 11:10 PM
Not sure if this rock has a name,
but I think the big block on the right is Tisdale 18.
Flicker gif, pancam sol 2699
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Jam Butty
Aug 29 2011, 11:28 PM
Tisdale 24 with Tisdale 18 on the left.
Flicker gif, pancam sol 2699
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walfy
Aug 30 2011, 12:10 AM
Thanks again, Stu. I couldn't help but gaze for a long while at your full-size rock garden composite! That has to be a classic.
I Pulled some detail out of the shadows from these fine Martian specimens. The file sizes might be a bit large with my jpegs as I try to minimize the damage to the already compressed and brutalized originals.
Click to view attachmentThe rock near the center is sandwich-like. Squyres must be salivating. We can expect NASA will announce a press conference regarding discoveries from this rock garden and vicinity, in due time of course.
mhoward
Aug 30 2011, 06:30 AM
I kind of dig the flicker gifs, so as an experiment here are a couple in color.
nprev
Aug 30 2011, 07:38 AM
Thumbs up, Mike!
Man...I dunno if it's just me, but these two rocks in particular scream two things to me: "breccia" and "liquid water".
Remarkable. If I'd found them on Earth the explanations would be obvious.
But this is not Earth.
EDIT: One more thing in my mind for the rock on the right (and I do not remember its name): "possible phyllosilicates".
But, again...this is not Earth.
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