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Astro0
Ah Dan. Didn't your parents warn you about playing with fire. laugh.gif
Astrophil
Cook’s account of the discovery and naming of the original Cape York.

Which is part of a fabulous site transcribing and interlinking the main journals of the Endeavour Voyage. If anyone’s casting about for a good book to take on holiday, there’s a brilliant narrative of the whole Endeavour expedition by Patrick “Master and Commander” O’Brian in his biography of Joseph Banks.
Stu
Fantastic resource phil, thanks for that! smile.gif
climber
I guess we're not yet at the, how do we call it, look-out (?), I mean the place just before we'll go down. So, is there any chance to see Cape York from there? Anyway, another Official panorama from there will show us more features, not counting we'll be closer.
Drkskywxlt
Has anyone posted a map of where Cape York is relative to Opportunity and Endeavor crater? I haven't seen it labeled on any of the maps yet. Maybe I've just missed it...
Stu
Take a look at my blog, there are lots of pics of where it is on there. Or, here you go...

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Cape York is circled in yellow.
ngunn
A question: Can we already see Batavia in the superres? If not, why has it been singled out for naming ahead of more prominent far rim features such as 'Cook'?
fredk
I'm pretty sure Batavia is hidden behind Tribulation in the super-res. If it were visible, it should be lighter like Iazu, being a similar distance.

As far as why'd they name it, Batavia was visible earlier due to our changing viewpoint. Check out James' inverse polar from sol 2140 in this post.
SFJCody
All this talk makes me want to visit the earthly counterparts of these places. Will probably start with Cape Byron as it's only 146km away.
climber
It's gona take you 12000 days to get to there; good luck wheel.gif
ElkGroveDan
Discussion of the composition and formation of Cape York has been moved here
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=6667
fredk
It looks like we can now see the plains behind Endeavour all the way around to this bit on the NE rim:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...NWP2362R1M1.JPG
There's only one stretch left before we can see the plains all the way across Endeavour...
jamescanvin
Combining two of the Endeavour movie frames (2247 & 2289) with an effective baseline of about 3-400m some stereo can be seen. As there isn't that much detail for your eyes to lock onto (combined with the noise as well) it's a little hard to see, but Cape Trib definitely appears closer than Dromedary and Hicks and Iazu is in the background. smile.gif

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James
fredk
Thanks for that, James. Unfortunately our direction of travel now isn't ideal for long-baseline imaging. But it sure is ideal for getting to Endeavour!
climber
From latest TPS update: “We won’t be able to see Cape York until we get within a couple of kilometers of Endeavour,” said Arvidson.
As Stu would say: discuss rolleyes.gif
Stu
QUOTE (climber @ Aug 1 2010, 09:54 PM) *
From latest TPS update: “We won’t be able to see Cape York until we get within a couple of kilometers of Endeavour,” said Arvidson.


Well... that weed on my chips, didn't it? sad.gif
Phil Stooke
I prefer a bit of vinegar.

Phil
ElkGroveDan
QUOTE (climber @ Aug 1 2010, 12:54 PM) *
As Stu would say: discuss rolleyes.gif

Bah! I don't believe it. I say we'll see it before Santa Maria.

EDIT: Recent observations not withstanding, the spot where I previously predicted we'd likely see Cape York is about 1100 meters from the sol 2315 stop.
Stu
Nice detail on those Faraway Hills...

http://twitpic.com/2bhunc
mhoward
Um... is that the far rim of Endeavour on the horizon center?? Is this old news and I just haven't been paying attention? Anyway, amazing.
fredk
That's actually the plains beyond Endeavour. We can see them almost all the way across Endeavour now. In terms of the far rim itself, we can still only see some of the highest hills. It's easier to see what's going on with the L7/R1 images - check out the latest batch at:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...nity_p2318.html
Oersted
Question: Is the curvature of the Mars globe such that there is no direct sightline between the tops of the far rims?
Phil Stooke
No - right now we can already see both sides, so they can certainly see each other.

Phil
Stu
Wow... the faraway hills are really coming to life now, aren't they..?

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Tesheiner
Definitely. Compare them with the picture in the first post of this very same thread, here.

Perhaps in the near future we should open a new thread: (Not so) distant vistas. tongue.gif
JohnVV
QUOTE
(Not so) distant vistas.

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Distant Vistas - are we there yet?
coming soon -- the not so "Distant Vistas"
Stu
QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Aug 7 2010, 11:25 AM) *
Definitely. Compare them with the picture in the first post of this very same thread,


You're not kidding!!!

http://twitpic.com/2cs1fs

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Astro0
Comparison animation between Aug.'09 and Aug.'10
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OT - Just thinking about how far Oppy has come... pancam.gif

Aug. 2010 - on the road to Endeavour
Aug. 2009 - examining Block Island
Aug. 2008 - exiting Victoria Crater
Aug. 2007 - end of the Great Dust Storm
Aug. 2006 - examining Beagle Crater
Aug. 2005 - not long out of Purgatory on the way to Erebus
Aug. 2004 - inside Endurance Crater
Aug. 2003 - heading towards Mars

marswiggle
Since no one has yet posted this, I feel compelled to show a 5x sideways compressed version of Stu's above image (essentially similar to a vertical stretch).

There must be (probably) a vast shallow depression circling Endeavour, and combined with the fact that "we" are currently on a topographical high this is why we can see several kilometres beyond the big crater. I guess as we begin to descend to the lower plains already emerging from behind the near horizon, the far view across the crater will be gradually lost for us.
fredk
QUOTE (marswiggle @ Aug 8 2010, 03:24 PM) *
the far view across the crater will be gradually lost for us.

I think you're probably right, at least until we summit one of the rim hills!
Stu
QUOTE (Astro0 @ Aug 8 2010, 02:12 PM) *
Comparison animation between Aug.'09 and Aug.'10


Beautiful!! That's what I wanted to do originally but ran out of patience - and profanities - trying to get the alignment right before I had to go to work... laugh.gif
DFinfrock
QUOTE (Stu @ Aug 8 2010, 09:25 PM) *
Beautiful!! That's what I wanted to do originally but ran out of patience - and profanities - trying to get the alignment right before I had to go to work... laugh.gif


You ran out of profanities? And you call yourself a poet and wordsmith.

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Stu
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Stu
Loving the details and textures becoming visible on the high hills now...

http://twitpic.com/2dphbt
sgendreau
Holy smokes. Thanks, Stu.

(we've been traveling so long ... and look! It's really there....)
Phil Stooke
Today's view of the hills with only a modest stretch. No sign yet of Cape York.

Phil

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fredk
That's surprizing. We can see the near rim on the right side of that frame (between near horizon and far rim hills). I make York to span roughly from the right side of that frame to below the dark crater about halfway up the far rim hill. The highest part of York should be the north (left) part. But there's no sign of a bump at all.

It's starting to look as though York is lower than the visible near rim, partway down into Endeavour. That would mean it could be a long time until we sight it.
ElkGroveDan
The terrain in the foreground has a slight rise on the left and dips to the right which is why we can see some of the near rim but not Cape York yet. Soon, very soon though. We are approaching a very subtle "summit" and once there, everything is going to pop into view.
Tesheiner
We should be able to see both Cape Yort and Santa Maria once we reach this local high point and I think this "summit" is more or less located at the point the ripples disappear and we go into the bedrock pavement.
BrianL
From the last TPS update:

Despite all the incoming Pancam pictures of Endeavour’s rim, Opportunity is still not able to see exactly where it will make ‘landfall.’ “We won’t be able to see Cape York until we get within a couple of kilometers of Endeavour,” said Arvidson. “But we know where it is. We know it’s there.”
eoincampbell
QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Aug 13 2010, 12:04 PM) *
We are approaching a very subtle "summit"...

And hopefully, wind-gusts-a-plenty on the brae after that...
so looking forward...
kenny
And for any of our readers who do not speak Scottsh Gaelic, a brae (properly braigh) is the upper part of a slope...
fredk
I agree there's a very subtle summit coming, but in the meantime, with the latest drive (2330) we've dropped into a subtle hollow (ancient eroded crater?). You can see a big change in the view from 2329:
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This is the biggest change in view we've seen in a very long time. Maybe this topography is related to the big swaths of exposed bedrock we're approaching now.
ElkGroveDan
Part of this comes from our slight tacking South where the slope dips a bit steeper. Nice to see validation of the terrain forms we've been working with though.
CosmicRocker
QUOTE (kenny @ Aug 14 2010, 02:46 AM) *
And for any of our readers who do not speak Scottsh Gaelic...
Thanks for that clarification.
elakdawalla
I've been thinking about trying to make a movie of the approach so far, and it occurred to me that this thread might be old enough that the first images posted to it may now be available in the PDS. I just checked the Analyst's Notebook, and they aren't--quite. But scheduled for Friday is the release of data through sol 2160. We should get better views from the PDS data -- we'll only be dealing with the haze from the atmosphere and the dust on the lenses, not the JPEG artifacts or the autostretch. It's time to start looking at the original distant vistas again, with sharper eyes!
Ant103
Hi,

I'm back for processing again some pictures (I've taken a few vacations and it's hard for me te going back on Mars tongue.gif).

Sol 2320 pancam view
Tesheiner
We must be near to the local high point. There's a lot of detail on the hills once again.

http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...cam/2010-08-21/
Stu
Aye, that there is...

http://twitpic.com/2gyi6g
Stu
Stretched and pulled to within an inch of its life... fascinating, fascinating horizon...

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