and the Pancam L2 view on Sol 2468.
Jan van Driel
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Full Version: Santa Maria!
The latest Planetary Society update is up.
One interesting comment from Arvidson:
And some classic inspiration from Squyres:
One interesting comment from Arvidson:
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"We can see multiple types of rocks in the wall and we're all anxious to get southeast so we can figure out what we're seeing in the CRISM data.
And some classic inspiration from Squyres:
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The most important thing between Santa Maria and Endeavour that we know about is getting to Endeavour," said Squyres. "We're going to put the pedal down and go like hell."
"I'm making no predictions," Squyres said. "But," he added, "we are 6.5 kilometers away with a rover that drove more than 7.5 kilometers this past year. You do the math.
"I'm making no predictions," Squyres said. "But," he added, "we are 6.5 kilometers away with a rover that drove more than 7.5 kilometers this past year. You do the math.
QUOTE (NickF @ Jan 4 2011, 06:25 AM) 
Stu's scree anaglyphed (pancam L2/R2)
No offense Nick but your channel separation was way off. I adjusted it for a bit more viewing ease.
QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jan 4 2011, 03:02 PM)
No offense Nick but your channel separation was way off. I adjusted it for a bit more viewing ease.
None taken! Thanks for the heads up. (I suspect it comes from balancing a laptop on my knee rather than my usual desktop setup.)
From jvandriel's post 306 we can see Oppy is close to the little crater at 6 O'Clock (4.7 km East).
And now from above as seen on New Years Eve
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/releases/oppy-santa-maria.php
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/releases/oppy-santa-maria.php
QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 4 2011, 08:41 AM)
From that web site there are two links, one for the main picture and then another link labeled 'here' to the supposed 18 degree oblique view.
I figured I could rotate the oblique view 90 deg ccw and make a stereo pair with the main image (text aside) and see if oppy would be able to pop-out in 3D.
However when I did this I got 0 stereo relief. It appears if these are actually the same image, but one is just rotated 90 degrees and has slightly different brightness.
Did Mathew Golombek point to the wrong picture (for one of them), is 18 degrees off nadir not enough to resolve stereo, or what??
The links to the two supposed different view images are
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/releases/ima...maria-large.jpg
and
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/releases/ima...ria-oblique.jpg
Even the jpeg artifacts seem to imply these are actually the same image source...
If these *were* a nadir and off-nadir point (where could they be found?), would we be able to resolve oppy as having height in 3D stereo view? (presumably Santa Maria at least would resolve depth...)
QUOTE (bgarlick @ Jan 4 2011, 04:23 PM)
If these *were* a nadir and off-nadir point (where could they be found?), would we be able to resolve oppy as having height in 3D stereo view? (presumably Santa Maria at least would resolve depth...)
They are - but no, you wouldn't get stereo with the rover - it's too small.
I was looking for the larger swath of the area from this observation that might show the scars relating to the recent wind activity...
Picasso's Planet!
QUOTE (bgarlick @ Jan 5 2011, 12:23 AM)
It appears if these are actually the same image, but one is just rotated 90 degrees and has slightly different brightness.
I noticed that too - they're definitely the same image. Somebody got their wires crossed.
nice to see Oppy
Squyres is my damned hero!
QUOTE (brellis @ Jan 5 2011, 02:16 AM)
Picasso's Planet!
Well, I'd said Dali's instead.
I spent new year in Cadaques (4 hours from home) where Dali used to live.
Guess what Cadaques' church name is?
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QUOTE (Floyd @ Jan 4 2011, 04:41 PM)
From jvandriel's post 306 we can see Oppy is close to the little crater at 6 O'Clock (4.7 km East).
Sorry, was my post a bit too cryptic..?
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...st&p=169043
QUOTE (FatSplenda @ Jan 5 2011, 06:30 AM)
Squyres is my damned hero!
I don't think the "damned" bit was necessary!
QUOTE (Fozzie @ Jan 5 2011, 02:29 AM)
I don't think the "damned" bit was necessary!
If you have a problem complaint or query about a post, please use the Report button - found bottom left of every post at UMSF. This will bring it to the attention of the entire UMSF Admin team who can then take action if it's considered necessary.
What you did by moaning about it in a thread is start a rather tedious debate about language standard semantics in a thread about an 80m wide crater on Mars.
Issue closed.
QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 5 2011, 04:48 AM)
Sorry Stu, Two reasons I could have overlooked your post 299: 1) it was on the previous page by the time I was looking at images; 2) Can't see the little crater in your image with out enlargement, could in jvandriel's post 306. Reading backward, you see the second post first.
QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 5 2011, 10:29 PM)
Colourised view of "Yuma"...
Is that the location where they hope to park the rover during occultation at the end of month?
(By the way, Stu, I love your mars blog!)
Added also images to the Pancam view.
Here is the L2 view on Sol 2468.
Jan van Driel
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Here is the L2 view on Sol 2468.
Jan van Driel
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QUOTE (walfy @ Jan 6 2011, 01:50 AM)
Is that the location where they hope to park the rover during occultation at the end of month?
You mean solar conjunction.
3D view of "Little South crater" from sol 2471:
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New f and r hazcams were taken on 2471, but there was no movement.
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New f and r hazcams were taken on 2471, but there was no movement.
Nice Fred. Thanks.
What are the clues that could tell us which of Santa Maria and Little South happened first?
"Little South" is located on the raised ejecta blanket of Santa Maria- if it had formed first it would have been at the level of the surrounding plains and would have been buried by Santa Maria ejecta. So it's more recent, definitely. I suppose it's possible that it's a late-arriving secondary from Santa Maria itself (i.e. more recent only by tens of seconds) but I think it's somewhat unusual to find secondaries so close to the prime crater rim.
John
John
Thanks.
It is interesting that there are ~8 small craters within 0.05 km of the north northeast rim of Santa Maria. Most look a little less pristine than south crater. May not be secondaries, but if not, maybe Opportunity should move as things from space seem to like to land around here. 
QUOTE (fredk @ Jan 6 2011, 10:07 AM)
New f and r hazcams were taken on 2471, but there was no movement.
Aborted drive?
QUOTE (walfy @ Jan 6 2011, 06:50 AM)
Is that the location where they hope to park the rover during occultation at the end of month?
Yuma is the general area of the hydrated sulfates
QUOTE (mars loon @ Jan 7 2011, 01:34 AM)
New Years Posttards from the Edge by Opportunity Mars Rover
What is a Posttard?
QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jan 7 2011, 03:49 AM)
What is a Posttard?
good catch .. sorry a typo ! lubkily the story headline is correct online. just double checked
but maybe be correct in Martian !!
just had arm surgury so my typing is terrible
Lookls like the little crater has a name...
02471 11:58:52 p2369.27. 1 0 0 0 0 0 8 pancam_la_gallega_3x1_L257
http://www.shipsofdiscovery.org/gallega.htm
02471 11:58:52 p2369.27. 1 0 0 0 0 0 8 pancam_la_gallega_3x1_L257
http://www.shipsofdiscovery.org/gallega.htm
Here is the navcam view taken on Sol 2468 and 2471 with the L0 navcam.
Mixed images taken on both Sols because there was no movement
of Opportunity.
Jan van Driel
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Mixed images taken on both Sols because there was no movement
of Opportunity.
Jan van Driel
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No movement of Opportunity between Sol 2468 and Sol 2471.
Only the antenna.
Jan van Driel
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Only the antenna.
Jan van Driel
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Here is the pancam L2 panoramic view
taken on Sol 2468 and 2471.
Jan van Driel
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taken on Sol 2468 and 2471.
Jan van Driel
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Now that we are up on the rim of Santa Maria and edging round to a point where we can look east, are we finally seeing the HOA View ?
We've definitely got a great view of the local plains surrounding us right now from our perch up here. But our view of the rim of Endeavour is worse than it was a couple of months ago, because even at the highest part of the rim of Santa Maria, we're quite a bit lower than we were around sol 2400. You can see this by comparing this view from sol 2406:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...00P2435R2M5.JPG
with this view from our highest point on Santa Maria's rim:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...J3P2297R2M1.JPG
Compare the position of the crater on the far rim - we can now see quite a bit less below it than we could earlier. So as far as Endeavour is concerned, our best view was a couple of months ago (until we get very close, of course...).
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...00P2435R2M5.JPG
with this view from our highest point on Santa Maria's rim:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...J3P2297R2M1.JPG
Compare the position of the crater on the far rim - we can now see quite a bit less below it than we could earlier. So as far as Endeavour is concerned, our best view was a couple of months ago (until we get very close, of course...).
QUOTE (fredk @ Jan 8 2011, 06:52 PM)
Compare the position of the crater on the far rim - we can now see quite a bit less below it than we could earlier. So as far as Endeavour is concerned, our best view was a couple of months ago (until we get very close, of course...).
Yes we are lower, but we are also neared than sol 2400. (26,5 - 24,4 km: 2,1 km) so we should see more detail. On the near rim the effect should be visible, the far rim is still too far away. Maybe we should have a look at the nearest point of the rim?
I think I can see some hobbits heading toward Mordor, Phil. 
Yes, I like their spiky little hats. I want one!
Phil
Phil
Here's a stereo view from back on sol 2467 (the left frame was just sent complete). I love rolling my eyes over the textures in this:
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