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climber
By watching the dunes (the most beautiful variety so far) I can't decide the general wind direction. This is important to find the best place to get a solar panels clean up. I don't expect we'll find a better oppy for a while. dd.gif
Sunspot
We may get a wind cleaning event here too....hopefully. smile.gif
Julius
The darker dunes look like el dorado type at spirits landing site!
OWW
I hope they start a full Pan this weekend. Some of those ejecta-blocks look very interesting. Different from the usual boring wink.gif Meridiani layered rocks?
djellison
QUOTE (climber @ Dec 17 2010, 12:52 PM) *
If you don't trust your brakes, turn the weels:


That's the front right wheel. It's not steer-turned in > 5 years.
Phil Stooke
Polar maps derived from Tesheiner's pan:

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Phil
mhoward


QuickTime VR version (5.3MB)
OWW
Gothrock:
Poolio
The first thing that popped into my head when I saw this picture was where's my toboggan?

Stunning. I think this is the most picturesque crater we've seen so far. What Victoria had in size, Santa Maria makes up for in pure drama.
fredk
Fantastic! smile.gif Here's the only anaglyph of the interior from the new set:
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Phil Stooke
And from mhoward's pan, just looking at the distance. Bopolu's gone now, presumably for ever.

Phil

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PaulM
Scott Maxwell has posted what is presumably his version of the sol 2451 Navcam view of Santa Maria:

http://twitpic.com/3gulwc

http://twitpic.com/3gulwc/full
neo56
With this dark sand dunes over its inner rim, Santa Maria is definitely different from the previous craters visited. These dunes are really smooth, I wonder what is the grains size... Should be like El Dorado. BTW, congrats to the navigators, driving Oppy so close to the crater rim is really impressive !
NickF
Bit more processing on the Santa Maria pan from post #99

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fredk
The plan:
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Won't be able to do much Monday, but we can drive and image today. Planning ~ 5m to second eye of long-baseline stereo.

Mmmm, long baseline stereo...
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jvandriel
Santa Maria

The Panoramic Navcam L0 view on Sol 2452.

Jan van Driel

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NickF
Adding a colourised pan, for fun.

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empebe
Mike
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Stu
Just catching up with things now (had to go to a pantomime... work thing... no, I wasn't the back end of a horse or donkey or anything...) and overwhelmed by the pictures everyone's been posting. Great work, Team UMSF! smile.gif This is just a beautiful, beautiful place, isn't it? A fantastic array and variety of rocks and ejecta; geological gateau layering to study and drool over; Endeavour beckoning, siren-like, on the horizon (and has anyone else noticed how clear the hills of Endeavour look in these latest images?) Going to be an interesting couple of months or so...

I really like the wall of dark dunes, very reminiscent of our old friend El Dorado/Ultreya. This view has been sharpened and played about with to bring out some detail there...

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fredk
Does this look to anyone else like the lighter rubble is a landslide that's covered up the darker dunes? Hard to be sure - maybe the pancams will show us what happened here:
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And perhaps my favourite crop from the new navcams:
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MarkG
It seems to look like the Santa Maria crater might have only exposed buried rubble (not layered sediment). If this turns out to be true, that the impactor slammed into a rubble deposit, not the layered sediments that we (well, Opportunity) have been traveling on, then we have some interesting things to think about.

Are we in the fill of an older crater represented by the broad depression we are on the West side of?

Have we crossed into the planed-flat zone of the rim ejecta from Endeavour? If deposition of the sediments continued after the Endeavour impact (likely), then some sediments would accumulate on the outer rim. If the whole thing then erodes flat, we would have an area of ancient rubble, planed flat, with perhaps a bit of additional sediment over it.

Better views, especially of the near (west) side interior crater wall, will help resolve this.

A sharp lookout for different rocks is a good idea.
ElkGroveDan
Agree on the landslide Fred.

And this crop you made is where CRISM ID'd an interesting pixel (according to the latest press image page.)

The red circle marked there on Figure 1 indicates the pixel size and location of an observation by the Compact Reconnaissance Imaging Spectrometer for Mars (CRISM) .... The spectrum recorded by CRISM for this spot, unlike the spectrum recorded for the place indicated by the blue circle on the floor of the crater, suggests what might be a water-bearing sulfate mineral.
elakdawalla
QUOTE (MarkG @ Dec 17 2010, 05:38 PM) *
It seems to look like the Santa Maria crater might have only exposed buried rubble...

IIRC, this broken up rubble (or "breccia") is part of the crater formation process. Wasn't there a breccia layer atop the intact rocks at Victoria?
Phil Stooke
Right, but is there any visible intact rock here? Pancams might show something in the bigger outcrops, but now it looks as if we might not see any intact 'bedrock' here.

Phil
eoincampbell
Hey EGD is that crop not showing the 2 o'clock position whereas CRISMs interesting pixel was about 4 o'clock?
The dark grains in the bowl really are a joy to behold...
CosmicRocker
I wanted to add a special note of thanks to Mike Howard for the frequent MidnightMarsBrowser metadata updates lately. It certainly is sweet to be able to spin around in the panoramas almost as soon as the images become available. smile.gif Thanks.

I think we have seen pretty much the same, typical, impact cross section at Endurance, Victoria, and now at Santa Maria (although we haven't seen intact bedrock here, yet).

Top
-rubble and ejecta
-broken, but largely in-place bedrock
-intact bedrock
Bottom

Phil: Take a look at the cape on the east west side of the crater. It appears to be composed of "broken, but largely in-place bedrock." It seems that the side of the crater below where Opportunity is currently parked offers the best chance to have some intact or largely intact rock. The opposite side appears to be the most disrupted, with disruption possibly decreasing on either side as you come around toward the rover. Perhaps it's just a matter of how the crater has eroded. We'll have to wait until she goes around to another position in order to see, though. It would help to have some pancams to see if we can follow any bedding planes through some of the fractured blocks.
peter59
QUOTE (OWW @ Dec 17 2010, 10:11 PM) *
I hope they start a full Pan this weekend.

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NickF
Anglyphed crop from sol 2451 navcam data.

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jvandriel
Added 1 image.
Panorama Sol 2451 R0.

Jan van Driel

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sgendreau
QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Dec 17 2010, 12:46 PM) *
And don't forget the front hazcams after gawping over the navcams, they are awesome and just little bit scary at the same time.

http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...J3P1212L0M1.JPG


The rim looks crumbly. How do they decide how close to go?
Stu
Looking back at how Oppy rolled up to Santa Maria...

http://roadtoendeavour.wordpress.com/2010/...-to-santa-maria

(lots of pics so posting link to blog entry rather than the pix themselves)
fredk
QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Dec 18 2010, 01:46 AM) *
And this crop you made is where CRISM ID'd an interesting pixel (according to the latest press image page.)

I think eoincampbell's right - the "landslide" is not the same as the CRISM spot - the CRISM spot is this area:
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Looking back at the pics of Endurance, that crater had prominent layering visible around most of the circumference. Definitely a big difference from SM. But I don't see how it could be that we're looking into ejecta from Endeavour, as MarkG suggested - wouldn't that mean the rocks would be of completely different composition than the familiar Meridiani bedrock, since Endeavour predated the Meridiani deposits?

Could it just be that SM is fresher than Endurance or Victoria, both of which had prominent layering? Ie in a few million years (or whatever), maybe the broken up rubble/ejecta visible on the surface today will erode away, leaving intact layered bedrock underneath visible? Or do we expect any layered bedrock to be visible in a fresh crater?

Could this be a bit of layering starting to show through:
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centsworth_II
QUOTE (fredk @ Dec 18 2010, 02:25 PM) *
...Could it just be that SM is fresher than Endurance or Victoria, both of which had prominent layering? Ie in a few million years (or whatever), maybe the broken up rubble/ejecta visible on the surface today will erode away, leaving intact layered bedrock underneath visible?....

Sounds right.
ElkGroveDan
I agree.
jvandriel
Opportunity looks also at the Sun.

Here is a small animation taken on
Sol 2449 with the L8 Pancam.

What do we see?.

Jan van Driel

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ilbasso
QUOTE (jvandriel @ Dec 18 2010, 04:24 PM) *
What do we see?.


It's too early for that to be Santa Claus... I can't think what would be as bright as the Sun. If it was something between Oppy and the Sun, it would have its dark side facing Oppy. If it was on the far side of the Sun, it would be fully illuminated but nothing should be as bright as the Sun. Maybe a bad spot on the CCD? It doesn't move the full height of the frame.
Floyd
Venus went by around Dec 8th, but I don't think that is it. Maybe a hot pixl with the position of sun moving relative?
PDP8E
a hot pixel - if it were a thing it would be as bright as the sun through that filter - As the sun 'moves' the orientation of the camera (and pixel) changes
ElkGroveDan
QUOTE (fredk @ Dec 18 2010, 11:25 AM) *
the CRISM spot is this area:
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Agreed. I glanced too quickly at your first crop.
ElkGroveDan
QUOTE (jvandriel @ Dec 18 2010, 01:24 PM) *
What do we see?.

It's too sharp and too bright to be any solar system body of any kind outside the Martian atmosphere. That's the sun we are gazing at. So I dunno maybe dust migrating across the filter between shots, some kind of cascading hot pixel (if such a thing is possible) that is knocking out neighboring pixels? Something like that I would bet.
fredk
Definitely a hot pixel. You can tell because it's just one pixel. Any real source would be blurred by the optics to a few pixels at least. It appears to move because these solar frames are auto-cropped around the Sun, and for different shots the Sun is in different parts of the full frame. If you looked at the whole frame the hot pixel wouldn't move.
Stu
Slow news night, isn't it..? rolleyes.gif

Ant103
This crater is absolutely mindblowing ! This is the most tortured impact formation ever seen on Mars by the MER, as far as I know.

During the trip to my parent's home (in Dordogne, Climber or Vikingmars should know) in train, I made the complete panoramic. A very stunning place.


Can't wait more for the color frames…
Mirek
QUOTE (jvandriel @ Dec 18 2010, 03:24 PM) *
What do we see?.


They are here!!! wheel.gif for your lives...
empebe
QUOTE (NickF @ Dec 18 2010, 12:38 PM) *
Anglyphed crop from sol 2451 navcam data.

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I am Red/Green colour blind, and usually have problems with Anglyphed pictures, but this one came out Great. Thanks
Mike

djellison
QUOTE (Floyd @ Dec 18 2010, 01:53 PM) *
Maybe a hot pixl with the position of sun moving relative?


Exactly what it is - unless you've spent 7 years with your eyes closed, it's a familiar sight to every MER fan clicking through an MMB update.
peter59
What can we expect?
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Pancam stamps.

We leave this place before completion of panorama? ohmy.gif
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vikingmars
QUOTE (Ant103 @ Dec 18 2010, 11:52 PM) *
This crater is absolutely mindblowing ! This is the most tortured impact formation ever seen on Mars by the MER, as far as I know. During the trip to my parent's home (in Dordogne, Climber or Vikingmars should know) in train, I made the complete panoramic. A very stunning place. Can't wait more for the color frames…

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Dear Ant103, thanks for the quote. Your pan is just GREAAAAT and deserves 5 Mars wheels !
Stu
Ant, best pan I've seen for a long time, that's going up on my blog for sure (if that's still ok?).

But you made that on a train? On A Train?!? I sit here making my efforts in Mars Corner, struggling with alignments and rotations and vignetting and you just knock that out on a laptop, in a rattling train carriage, on a table covered with coffee cups and Twix wrappers, with a student snoring opposite you with his "tsss yss yssss" iPod playing in his ears?

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Tesheiner
QUOTE (peter59 @ Dec 19 2010, 09:54 AM) *
We leave this place before completion of panorama? ohmy.gif


Not really. I'm pretty sure the following shots will be taken before driving.
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