Don't think we'll tarry too long at this crater, so in advance of Oppy heading east I've made a pic of Santa Maria with some labels, which I hope we can use in our discussions as we look forward to Oppy's arrival at that fascinating-looking crater. No names, just labels for features.
http://roadtoendeavour.wordpress.com/2010/...-at-santa-mariaAnd, as always, just for fun - not claiming 100000% scientific accuracy - here's a pic showing Endurance (top), Santa Maria (middle) and Victoria roughly to scale...
Click to view attachment... and finally, a "zoom out" series of images I've wanted to make for ages...
http://roadtoendeavour.files.wordpress.com...11/zoom-out.jpg
Looks like we have a proper name for "Waypoint crater"...
"Nearly 100m over the weekend. Today, the last 50m to Intrepid Crater, so we can image it. After that, I think we're Santa Maria-bound." (Tweeted by Scott Maxwell)
fredk
Nov 9 2010, 08:44 PM
climber
Nov 9 2010, 08:56 PM
I'm not bored seeing yet another crater. I'm really looking forward getting to Santa Maria, hopefully before... Santa Claus!
We're "only" miss another 15 "100m's drives".
djellison
Nov 9 2010, 09:04 PM
mhoward
Nov 9 2010, 09:24 PM
Sol 2415
100 degree FOV:
60 degree FOV:
NickF
Nov 9 2010, 09:28 PM
Intrepid in anaglyph form
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Vultur
Nov 9 2010, 11:15 PM
Intrepid looks really shallow.
nprev
Nov 10 2010, 06:13 AM
Always strikes me how often these small craters in Meridiani don't look like craters to me from Oppy's viewpoint. They often look like very conventional small eroded depressions & associated knolls that I wouldn't notice twice in many places on Earth.
One wonders.
Stu
Nov 10 2010, 07:50 AM
PaulM
Nov 10 2010, 12:58 PM
QUOTE (nprev @ Nov 10 2010, 06:13 AM)
Always strikes me how often these small craters in Meridiani don't look like craters to me from Oppy's viewpoint. They often look like very conventional small eroded depressions & associated knolls that I wouldn't notice twice in many places on Earth.
One wonders.
It looks like a sink hole from limestone country to me.
john_s
Nov 10 2010, 02:53 PM
Nah, sinkholes don't have raised rims.
John
Phil Stooke
Nov 10 2010, 03:07 PM
I think if you look back at Apollo images of craters seen at the surface, except for the fresher ones they also look eroded, shallow, irregular etc. (having been pitted by small impacts and showered with ejecta from nearby impacts). These are craters, no question, partly filled with wind-blown material or with rims distorted by superposed drifts.
Phil
Phil Stooke
Nov 10 2010, 07:08 PM
They are doing a Phobos transit observation today - oops, no, looks like it was yesterday.
Phil
charborob
Nov 10 2010, 08:58 PM
Images of Paramore double crater (taken on sol 2409) just in on Exploratorium. I made this panorama (my first!).
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Phil Stooke
Nov 10 2010, 09:31 PM
Very nice job! It inspired me to make a version of it and then do a vertical stretch - the previous ones were looking more towards the west, this one looks south.
Phil
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nprev
Nov 10 2010, 09:51 PM
Oh, I don't doubt for a nanosecond that Intrepid & the other small features are craters, Phil. Their appearance does make me wonder how many small-scale unidentified impact features there are on the Earth, though. With our aggressive erosional processes it'd be all but impossible to identify such things consistently, but it's interesting to think about.
NW71
Nov 10 2010, 10:08 PM
QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Nov 10 2010, 09:31 PM)
It inspired me to make a version of it and then do a vertical stretch - this one looks south.
Phil - thank you for that.
Just so I'm not too disorientated - what/where are those (hills?) in the top left?
Neil
Deimos
Nov 10 2010, 10:35 PM
Yesterday's Phobos transit (during my pre-lunch telecon, after Opportunity's UHF pass) was the second and last of the season. Preliminary indication is the images will be quite good when they finally make it down (possible annular shot AM 2410, good grazing sequence PM 2415).
fredk
Nov 10 2010, 10:58 PM
QUOTE (NW71 @ Nov 10 2010, 10:08 PM)
what/where are those (hills?) in the top left?
That'd be Iazu crater.
SFJCody
Nov 10 2010, 11:01 PM
QUOTE (nprev @ Nov 11 2010, 07:51 AM)
Oh, I don't doubt for a nanosecond that Intrepid & the other small features are craters, Phil. Their appearance does make me wonder how many small-scale unidentified impact features there are on the Earth, though.
Wouldn't objects small enough to make craters of that size decelerate to terminal velocity in Earth's atmosphere and not produce craters?
elakdawalla
Nov 10 2010, 11:09 PM
Is this Golden Hind or Yankee Clipper? 1N342132857EFFAVH9P1876L0M and following images, sol 2410.
Oh, wait, I realized where I could figure that out. It's Golden Hind. They took pics of Yankee Clipper but they're not on the ground yet.
SFJCody
Nov 10 2010, 11:16 PM
Pertinax
Nov 11 2010, 02:26 AM
Deja vu or not I'll happily take it! It's smooth, safe, and speedy!
I hear you though, one could almost expect to see the lander in either GH or Intrepid
.
-- Pertinax
HughFromAlice
Nov 11 2010, 12:59 PM
QUOTE (charborob @ Nov 11 2010, 06:28 AM)
I made this panorama (my first!).
Nice one! Look forward to you doing more :-)
Stu
Nov 11 2010, 02:59 PM
QUOTE (charborob @ Nov 10 2010, 08:58 PM)
I made this panorama (my first!).
Good job! Welcome to the image-processing Lodge...
ElkGroveDan
Nov 11 2010, 03:14 PM
QUOTE (charborob @ Nov 10 2010, 12:58 PM)
I made this panorama (my first!).
C’est tiguidou
charborob
Nov 11 2010, 03:52 PM
Thanks for your good words about my first panorama. Usually, you guys are too quick, and when I check the new posts, the job is already done. I hope I can once in a while add my modest contribution to this fantastic adventure.
Stu
Nov 11 2010, 05:15 PM
Oh, don't worry about being" scooped"!
It's not a race to see who can post the latest image first; I think everyone here just wants to contribute to the 'whole' by posting their take on a particular scene. My images aren't - as is well known by now - as accurate scientifically as those posted by others; I go for a more artistic, more aesthetically-pleasing take on things.
Room for everyone, and no winner's medal for being first. Just enjoy walking alongside Oppy as she approaches, gazes at and then passes each new wonder on the road to Endeavour*...
* Hmmm. Good name for a blog, that...
NickF
Nov 11 2010, 07:58 PM
A modest anaglyph of Golden Hind, a modest crater
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Stu
Nov 11 2010, 09:20 PM
"Yankee Clipper" I presume...
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mhoward
Nov 11 2010, 10:07 PM
QUOTE (Stu @ Nov 11 2010, 03:20 PM)
"Yankee Clipper" I presume...
Metadata says yes.
fredk
Nov 11 2010, 10:14 PM
mhoward
Nov 11 2010, 10:40 PM
Couple quick ones: 90 degree FOV from Paramore with the next two craterlets, Golden Hind and Yankee Clipper, visible on the left towards the horizon.
Little look back at Yankee Clipper while looking for dust devils (so says the image tag anyway):
Hungry4info
Nov 11 2010, 10:45 PM
Phobos transit (animated)
nprev
Nov 12 2010, 12:05 AM
Huh. That's kind of different; the transit is much more clearly seen in the secondary reflection. Thank you, Hungry.
Floyd
Nov 12 2010, 12:57 AM
Sure looks to me like Oppy drove right across a crater
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Phil Stooke
Nov 12 2010, 01:18 AM
Floyd - yes, it did, and you can see it in the route map here:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/tm-...B_Sol2412_1.jpg- the stop before last on this map, looking back.
Phil
elakdawalla
Nov 12 2010, 04:04 AM
Oh, neat, I never would have spotted that if it weren't mentioned here!
Astro0
Nov 12 2010, 04:46 AM
Just another look at the Phobos transit.
Rather than try and pick it out of the glare, there was a reflection (for want of a better word) off to the upper left on the image.
I pulled that out and after hideously tweaking it, enlarging it etc, created this animated gif.
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elakdawalla
Nov 12 2010, 05:18 AM
Thanks, Astro0; I spent a few minutes trying to do that and gave up.
Stu
Nov 12 2010, 07:06 AM
It's been a long road... getting from there to here...
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HughFromAlice
Nov 12 2010, 07:32 AM
QUOTE (Stu @ Nov 12 2010, 02:45 AM)
It's not a race...... Room for everyone
Really really agree. Good on you for saying that Stu, especially as you're one of the main contributors who has been posting here since pretty well the beginning. I really appreciated your comments when I first got going. It motivated me to do more, squeeze time in in the evenings and keep learning!! This is one of the great things about UMSF.
Also I think your site is great...... I visit it from time to time - It keeps getting better and better and more and more comprehensive as you keep learning and expanding your skills and knowledge. It exemplifies what a passionate amateur can do.
Wikipedia - An amateur (French amateur "lover of", from Old French and ultimately from Latin amatorem nom. amator, "lover") is generally considered a person attached to a particular pursuit, study, or science, without pay and often without formal training... and reflects a voluntary motivation to work as a result of personal interest in the activity.
djellison
Nov 12 2010, 08:29 AM
Yes, it's oft inferred or assumed that amateur is the opposite of professional, when it's not. The driving difference, is a salary.
Stu
Nov 12 2010, 08:50 AM
Another transit was imaged...
02415 17:32:23 p2735.01. 1 0 0 28 4 28 28 pancam_phobos_transit_L78R28
Here's an animation I made from the thumbnails on the tracking site...
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Den
Nov 12 2010, 09:17 AM
QUOTE (Floyd @ Nov 12 2010, 01:57 AM)
Sure looks to me like Oppy drove right across a crater
Wow!
I was thinking drivers are avoiding such crossings at all costs - old filled craters might be filled by fine dust, making them dangerous sand (dust?) traps. Is't Spirit sitting in a buried crater trap right now?
I wonder how rover drivers determined that it was safe to cross this crater?
NW71
Nov 12 2010, 10:11 AM
QUOTE (Stu @ Nov 12 2010, 08:50 AM)
Another transit was imaged...
Thanks Stu - just shows you how the eyes can play tricks! At first glance you'd swear blind that Phobos is curling round the Sun in those images!
(And yes, I know it does over a Martian year before any pedantic fans leap in there!)
Neil
nprev
Nov 12 2010, 01:15 PM
QUOTE (Astro0 @ Nov 11 2010, 08:46 PM)
Rather than try and pick it out of the glare, there was a reflection (for want of a better word)...
Purely for my own edification, what exactly is that 'reflection', then, Astro0? Is it some sort of artifact produced by the CCD array somehow?
Poolio
Nov 12 2010, 01:41 PM
QUOTE (Stu @ Nov 12 2010, 02:06 AM)
It's been a long road... getting from there to here...
I find something so compelling about that "Tracks" image. From A afarensis to robots on Mars. To think of those early homonids and the vast future before them, how little they could have imagined about walking on the moon or roving on other planets. The image really underscores the stunning acceleration of human achievement: 450 years since the Copernican model of the universe, 150 years since Darwin explained the diversity of life, 50 years since we tackled the void of space... Makes you wonder what we could accomplish, not in the next 100 or 1000 years, but in the next 10 or 20. Inspiring. You might even consider adding
POLAND, 395 million years ago to the left of your image!
(Sorry for going off-topic, but I simply had to comment on Stu's fantastic image.)
Back to the subject at hand... hopefully not a stupid question: are those stars or camera artifacts (dust?) in the transit image?
Pertinax
Nov 12 2010, 01:55 PM
While not Astro0, I hope neither mind my jumping in
....
It is an internal reflection off either one of the three lens elements, the sapphire protective 'cover', or the back of the neutral density filter. If I had to guess which I'd say it's a reflection off the front sapphire cover and again off the inside of the ND filter. Little more than a hand-waving guess though from taking a handful of pictures over the years through welding filters with similar kinds of reflections in some shots
!
That help at all?
-- Pertinax
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