yoichi
Oct 30 2018, 12:28 AM
https://twitter.com/haya2e_jaxa/status/1057065930927140864HAYABUSA2@JAXA @haya2e_jaxa
[BOX-C] Touchdown rehearsal, TD1-R3, is just over but we are beginning BOX-C operations. The spacecraft will perform low altitude observations at ~5km from today (October 30). After this, we plan to further lower the altitude for images near the touchdown candidate site, L08.
9:25 - 2018年10月30日
yoichi
Oct 30 2018, 08:47 AM
http://www.hayabusa2.jaxa.jp/topics/20181030_TD1R3_CAMH/Image taken with a small monitor camera (cam-h) in touchdown 1 rehearsal 3 (TD1-R3). The photograph was taken from the altitude of about 21m, which began to rise on October 25, 2018 (JST) every second.
The rising speed is about 52cm/s. (Image credit: JAXA)
Explorer1
Oct 30 2018, 12:05 PM
Jaw-dropping! Thanks for finding this, brightening up my morning Yoichi!
According to the English twitter, another target marker was dropped off and tracked autonomously.
yoichi
Oct 31 2018, 01:46 AM
QUOTE (yoichi @ Oct 30 2018, 05:47 PM)
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http://www.hayabusa2.jaxa.jp/topics/20181030_TD1R3_CAMH/Image taken with a small monitor camera (cam-h) in touchdown 1 rehearsal 3 (TD1-R3). The photograph was taken from the altitude of about 21m, which began to rise on October 25, 2018 (JST) every second.
The rising speed is about 52cm/s. (Image credit: JAXA)
press release in english
http://www.hayabusa2.jaxa.jp/en/topics/20181030e_TD1R3_CAMH/
Phil Stooke
Nov 1 2018, 05:33 PM
Another map update to include dropping the second target marker.
Any corrections or additions including feature names are very welcome.
Phil
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mcmcmc
Nov 1 2018, 05:54 PM
During past hours Hayabusa silently performed a low altitude mission, going down to 2300 m; now it's rising since 15 hours and it has reached 7400m altitude, and it's still rising at 20 cm/s.
![](https://programmi.000webhostapp.com/hayabusa2/simulator/screenshot-11-01.png)
No info about it on twitter and official site.
mcmcmc
Nov 1 2018, 05:59 PM
These images attempt showing the paths followed by H2 during TD1-R1A (right long blue path, ONC-W camera) and TD1-R3 (left short blue path, horn camera).
They are the result of the 3d reconstruction of landing site using 3DF Zephyr free, which also shows (but unfortunately does not export) calculated position of cameras.
This is the 3d reconstruction of the landing site:
https://sketchfab.com/models/95adee20ea9145...1064df8418b99c7I don't get why they decided to land so close to a house-tall boulder.
mcmcmc
Nov 1 2018, 06:37 PM
Although not very scientific because I don't have all the needed tools and skills to perform a precise job, this model is interesting because it gives a sense of scale of the landing site:
https://sketchfab.com/models/f66ecf2b03b545...969b4d5aa81d99c
John Moore
Nov 1 2018, 07:15 PM
QUOTE (mcmcmc @ Nov 1 2018, 06:59 PM)
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These images attempt showing the paths followed by H2 during TD1-R1A (right long blue path, ONC-W camera) and TD1-R3 (left short blue path, horn camera).
They are the result of the 3d reconstruction of landing site using 3DF Zephyr free, which also shows (but unfortunately does not export) calculated position of cameras.
This is the 3d reconstruction of the landing site:
https://sketchfab.com/models/95adee20ea9145...1064df8418b99c7I don't get why they decided to land so close to a house-tall boulder.
mcmcmc
Nov 3 2018, 08:33 PM
Mistery revealed (about low altitude mission of previous days): they were looking for the target maker, which is confirmed to be visible from 2.4 km away:
https://twitter.com/haya2_jaxa/status/1058612614924652544
mcmcmc
Nov 12 2018, 08:52 AM
Press release (English PDF) from 8/nov press conference:
http://www.hayabusa2.jaxa.jp/enjoy/materia...08_ver6_en2.pdfDuring
TD1-R3:
LIDAR active down to 25m, then LRF. Synchronization to Ryugu speed, short "quick" descent before target release, target release at 12m altitude, ascent to 20 m, marker tracking , ascent back to 20000m.
2018/11/18-2018/11/29: Preparation period - On November 23, 2018, the spacecraft will be placed into the conjunction transition orbit. During this period, communications are not reliable due to Sun radio interference.
2018/11/30-2018/12/21: No trajectory control is performed, but communication with the spacecraft is still attempted.
2018/12/22-2019/01/01: Reversion period - Home Position Return control (HPR) maneuver will be performed on December 29, 2018 to return the spacecraft to the home position.
* JAXA Space Exploration Innovation Hub unveils a simple version of the
shape model.* The Hayabusa2 Science Team is developing a precise shape model for Ryugu.
* Schedule for release with the publication of the associated paper.
Downloadable here:
http://www.ihub-tansa.jaxa.jp/ryugu_mokei.htmlDirect link:
http://www.ihub-tansa.jaxa.jp/files/tansax..._mokei_2018.fbxModel based on low-res images from june 2018.
· Number of vertices: 157,000
· Number of triangular patches : 52, 600
· File size: 4 MB, FBX Format
· km unit
Selected landing site: L08-Bhttp://www.planetary.org/multimedia/space-...nding-site.htmlNext press conferences scheduled for 6/dec, 13/dec
Explorer1
Dec 5 2018, 02:29 AM
A post in the Osiris-REx thread reminded me: is there any reason Hayabysa 2 has stayed in basically an equatorial 'hover' for all this time, rather than going into a proper orbit like Osiris-Rex will after finishing imaging of the poles this month (which is also something Hayabusa 2 has not done)?
Why did the spacecraft go on a distant excursion away from Ryugu during solar conjunction, when they could have just spent that time in orbit. Surely there would be no danger of a collision after mapping out the gravity field! Or were they worried about accidentally going into the asteroid's shadow?
Phil Stooke
Dec 5 2018, 02:38 AM
Probably more a matter of how confident they were that there would not be any problem during conjunction. Osiris-Rex doesn't have to worry about conjunction now, but they also might not want to stay in a low orbit for weeks without contact.
Phil
Explorer1
Dec 25 2018, 10:41 PM
pandaneko
Jan 8 2019, 10:36 AM
There was a very brief news on H2 landing on this evening's NHK TV. H2 is now scheduled to
make the first landing attempt during the week starting on 18 February.
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Explorer1
Jan 9 2019, 10:51 PM
New map of many feature names, both IAU approved and colloquial ones from the team:
https://twitter.com/haya2e_jaxa/status/1082952972181458944
Phil Stooke
Jan 20 2019, 07:44 AM
I have added those new names to my map. There is one missing character to be filled in on the ridge name when I figure it out (any Japanese-speaking help would be appreciated - message me please!). In the previous version of the map I had marked two target markers but I see now that there was only one, the second descent was for imaging - please correct me if I am wrong about that.
Phil
Click to view attachmentEDIT - a forum member (and spouse) was able to help me - thanks very much. So the missing character has been added at the end of the name of the equatorial ridge. I replaced the map file with the corrected version.
Marcin600
Jan 23 2019, 01:28 AM
I found this
https://twitter.com/CiteEspace/status/1047166709906493441Does anyone know: are these photos of Otohime Saxum anywhere officially published?
Marcin600
Jan 25 2019, 02:32 PM
pandaneko
Feb 7 2019, 02:18 AM
There was an article in this morning's newspaper here that H2 will go down for sampling at 08:00 on 22nd this month. Time, I think, is JST.
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foe
Feb 21 2019, 04:38 AM
nprev
Feb 21 2019, 04:42 AM
Thank you, Foe. Good luck!!!
GO HAYABUSA 2!!!
yoichi
Feb 21 2019, 07:55 AM
"Hayabusa2" Touchdown (TD1)(English)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMwAdquDYMLive relay from JAXA Sagamihara Campus: Feb 22, 06:45~ JST
pandaneko
Feb 21 2019, 12:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkoVN_Bzkdothis above is real timish, and not real, but it may be interesting to some people,
jointly produced by JAXA and NHK.
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Holder of the Two Leashes
Feb 21 2019, 02:34 PM
The touchdown is scheduled for 23:25 UTC on the 21st (today). A small slip from the original 23:06.
That would be 6:25 pm EST and 2:25 pm PST.
The full schedule of events is posted on the Hayabusa English site at
this link.
djellison
Feb 21 2019, 10:12 PM
I CAN'T FIND MY BOTTLE OF LIPOVITAN D
Hungry4info
Feb 21 2019, 11:12 PM
Confirmation that the spacecraft carried out it's sampling operation and, if I understood correctly, that the projectile was fired.
Edit: Confirmation that the projectile was commanded to fire, not necessarily that it did.
nprev
Feb 22 2019, 12:37 AM
Yay, JAXA, and
![laugh.gif](http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Doug!!!
Hungry4info
Feb 22 2019, 02:17 AM
Post-sampling conference (english):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2EvmOJa_-kTemperature sensor showed a ten degree increase when the projectile was commanded to fire. This is being interpreted as confirmation of projectile firing.
Hungry4info
Feb 22 2019, 02:47 AM
They say thruster firings caused the dark marks. There may be debris near the spacecraft or on the camera lens (out of focus smudges). They're confident because of this image that sample-collection was successful and have commanded the sample canister chamber to seal this sample.
Marcin600
Feb 22 2019, 09:46 PM
Waiting for more photos from the touchdown ...
Ryugu from a different perspective - older picture from January 24, 2019 - northern hemisphere and marked place of touchdown:
http://www.hayabusa2.jaxa.jp/en/topics/20190220e_BoxB/
Explorer1
Feb 23 2019, 06:23 PM
Some quotes in this article indicate the team is already preparing for the copper projectile firing (and future sample collection)!
https://spaceflightnow.com/2019/02/22/japan...capture-sample/
Marcin600
Feb 23 2019, 08:07 PM
Regarding the dark spot left by the Hayabusa 2 on the surface of Ryugu - I wonder if it is the effect of a blast of engines? But there is no dust and sand on Ryugu like on Mars or the Moon! Or maybe there was a chemical reaction between the asteroids material and the fuel combustion products?
Phil Stooke
Feb 23 2019, 08:31 PM
"But there is no dust and sand on Ryugu like on Mars or the Moon! "
We don't know that there is none at all. There might be a small amount.
Phil
Marcin600
Feb 23 2019, 08:37 PM
Or maybe the effect of inverting small stones with this side up, which is unchanged by cosmic erosion upwards. In microgravity conditions
nprev
Feb 24 2019, 03:54 AM
Small as it is, Ryugu doubtless still gets its share of micrometeoritic erosion over time. Of course there has to be at least some dust on the surface.
pandaneko
Feb 24 2019, 09:37 AM
Apparently, the way H2 tocuhed down is something like this. H2 went down for the marker and stopped right above it.
It then tilted the solar panel. It then, with the tilted panel, slided down at an angle until it reached the surface.
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Marcin600
Feb 26 2019, 04:27 AM
I completed my post with my strictly amateur concept of the creation of a dark spot on Ryugu - assuming that since Minerva's and MASCOT did not detect even a single piece of dust on the surface, there is probably very little there (???) - only gravel of different sizes
Marcin600
Feb 26 2019, 04:45 AM
QUOTE (nprev @ Feb 24 2019, 04:54 AM)
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Small as it is, Ryugu doubtless still gets its share of micrometeoritic erosion over time. Of course there has to be at least some dust on the surface.
Of course - there should be dust and sand. Where all the regolith has disappeared is probably one of Ryugu's biggest questions
nprev
Feb 26 2019, 05:18 AM
Doesn't seem that mysterious. Just about any impact large enough to leave a meter-sized crater or so likely provides enough energy to eject a fair amount of small regolith constituents from at least the general area around the impact site at escape velocity, and possibly even on the antipodal side as well if the internal structure of Ryugu is such that foci exist. Over time the rate of loss probably is greater than the rate of formation.
Marcin600
Feb 28 2019, 04:18 PM
QUOTE (nprev @ Feb 26 2019, 06:18 AM)
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Doesn't seem that mysterious. Just about any impact large enough to leave a meter-sized crater or so likely provides enough energy to eject a fair amount of small regolith constituents from at least the general area around the impact site at escape velocity, and possibly even on the antipodal side as well if the internal structure of Ryugu is such that foci exist. Over time the rate of loss probably is greater than the rate of formation.
And yet scientists and designers of Hayabusa 2 seemed quite surprised by the lack / deficiency of the smallest particles of regolith (dust and sand) on Ryugu's surface.
If the mechanism you describe works, and at least some of the small asteroids are considered a pile of debris, then one can expect that the smaller the asteroid, the larger the rocks on the surface. I am curious about the results from OSIRIS-REx at Bennu. A lot of explanations will also bring results from MASCOT if they finally appear. The copper projectile will also tell a lot about Ryugu's surface. And of course, with a bit of luck, the content of the return capsule - but it still requires a lot of patience...
Phil Stooke
Feb 28 2019, 10:27 PM
Impact ejecta particles will have a wide range of velocities. Look at Tycho crater on the Moon, where some ejecta can travel across much of the near side of the Moon, or even possibly converge on its antipode, but much more of it by volume was only just able to get out of the crater and covered the surface as a thick continuous ejecta blanket. Some didn't even get out and slumped back into the crater. On Ryugu, some ejecta might fly out at escape volocity, but some impact energy goes into jostling the blocks near the impact, breaking them into smaller pieces and no doubt generating dust in the process. There should be dust, and impacts cannot preferentially remove it as ejecta.
Large particles are often observed to collect at the top of a container of mixed particle sizes (the 'brazil nut effect'). The chances are that there is plenty of dust on Ryugu, but the bigger chunks are concentrated at the surface and the dust drains down into the voids between them. I think that is what we are seeing at Ryugu. We woild only need a very thin layer of it on the surface blocks to produce a visible effect when thrusters blow it away, and that amount would not be visible in the kind of images we have been seeing of the surface.
Phil
Marcin600
Mar 3 2019, 06:25 PM
QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Feb 28 2019, 11:27 PM)
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Impact ejecta particles will have a wide range of velocities. Look at Tycho crater on the Moon, where some ejecta can travel across much of the near side of the Moon, or even possibly converge on its antipode, but much more of it by volume was only just able to get out of the crater and covered the surface as a thick continuous ejecta blanket. Some didn't even get out and slumped back into the crater. On Ryugu, some ejecta might fly out at escape volocity, but some impact energy goes into jostling the blocks near the impact, breaking them into smaller pieces and no doubt generating dust in the process. There should be dust, and impacts cannot preferentially remove it as ejecta.
Large particles are often observed to collect at the top of a container of mixed particle sizes (the 'brazil nut effect'). The chances are that there is plenty of dust on Ryugu, but the bigger chunks are concentrated at the surface and the dust drains down into the voids between them. I think that is what we are seeing at Ryugu. We woild only need a very thin layer of it on the surface blocks to produce a visible effect when thrusters blow it away, and that amount would not be visible in the kind of images we have been seeing of the surface.
Phil
I agree with you, Phil, that "BNF" (I mean the "Brazil Nuts Effect") is a good candidate to explain the situation on the surface of Ryugu.
But, as a complete amateur, I have two questions:
1. Does "BNF" operate without gravity or in very low gravity as on Ryugu?
2. Does "BNF" work without "walls of the container" (as on Ryugu)?
I also remember that even on such a large globe as the Moon, dust can electrostatically levitate just above the surface - contrary to the force of quite high gravity, and therefore, potentially against the settling in the voids in the depths of the asteroid too.
Marcin
yoichi
Mar 5 2019, 06:51 AM
Phil Stooke
Mar 5 2019, 07:41 AM
I updated the map of Ryugu with information from the new press release - may I say here how great the Hayabusa 2 press releases have been, just incredibly informative and detailed.
Phil
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Paolo
Mar 5 2019, 11:42 AM
I didn't realize that the impactor is going to target poor Mascot, more or less...
Explorer1
Mar 5 2019, 03:45 PM
Astounding views of the sampling! Looks like plenty of debris could have gone into the funnel. Looks like some pieces hit the side of the spacecraft too, judging from the video.
Hard to believe, but the SCI impact next month will be even more impressive (from a safe distance!).
It appears from the press release that they may still release the final rover this summer. Even if it's not working properly, surely there's not point in lugging that mass back to Earth.
Paolo
Mar 7 2019, 07:55 AM
QUOTE (yoichi @ Mar 5 2019, 07:51 AM)
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one question comes to my mind after seeing the video, that I have not seen addressed: are all of the flying debris still gravitationally bound to Ryugu? will they fall back on it? will they end up in orbit? are we witnessing the birth of a mini-moon? or, finally, will they end in separate solar orbit?
pandaneko
Mar 7 2019, 12:20 PM
Why is it that the same fragments look shiny and then dark as they fly up rotating?
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abalone
Mar 7 2019, 12:27 PM
QUOTE (Paolo @ Mar 7 2019, 06:55 PM)
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one question comes to my mind after seeing the video, that I have not seen addressed: are all of the flying debris still gravitationally bound to Ryugu? will they fall back on it? will they end up in orbit? are we witnessing the birth of a mini-moon? or, finally, will they end in separate solar orbit?
Almost all of the fragments will either have escape velocity and disappear or not quite enough and settle back on the surface. A single kick from the surface can put an object into orbit but this orbit will have a perigee that is the same as the point it was kick off the surface. To go into a stable orbit it needs a second kick at some altitude above the surface to raise it perigee off the asteroids surface. The escape velocity is about 0.38m/s or about 1.35 km/h. This is one of the reasons why a cannon shell can not be fired into a stable orbit.
QUOTE (pandaneko @ Mar 7 2019, 11:20 PM)
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Why is it that the same fragments look shiny and then dark as they fly up rotating?
P
Id say some are sun illuminated and some in shadow
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