ronatu
Oct 10 2006, 12:10 AM
QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Oct 8 2006, 05:13 AM)
thaumaturges? на желтом форуме
--Bill
Why no pyccku?
Bill Harris
Oct 10 2006, 12:39 AM
Here is an L257 Pancam of the pre-RAT brush at the current Cabo Verde stop. I stretched it a bit to pull out some shadow detail. The MI of the brush shows an unusual texture to the rock surface. Pulverized and recemented evaporite etched by wind erosion?
--Bill
aldo12xu
Oct 10 2006, 03:55 AM
In my opinion, folks, this texture is not that far different from Diamond Jenness and Bylot group of rocks at Endurance. These are the rocks that hosted our "popcorn spherules" and indeed near the top of the microscopic image posted above you can see a couple of microspherules encrusted with sulfates.
Check out some of the MI photos at the bottom of this 2004 press release.
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/pre.../20040818a.html
CosmicRocker
Oct 10 2006, 04:06 AM
It looks as if a few of the embedded berries that were sticking above the surface got a crew-cut from the RAT in that brushing. I don't think I see what has been described as unusual in that MI. It seemed similar to previous brushings. To me, it looks like a weathering rind in which the shapes of clasts and crystals in the rock are vaguely recognizable.
dilo
Oct 10 2006, 05:17 AM
A stitch of the best two frames from Sols961 and 962 (before and after RAT brush):
Click to view attachment Click to view attachment
Bill Harris
Oct 10 2006, 08:34 AM
There is an oatmeal (with blueberries) texture to the surface that makes me think that this is a primary characteristic of the rock, but this outcrop is undergoing non-usual wind erosion since the rock is elevated and exposed to the wind instead of laying on a flat plain. We'll know more soon after the grinding.
--Bill
jvandriel
Oct 10 2006, 06:21 PM
Added one image.
The 360 degree panoramic view from Sol 959 and Sol 963.
Taken with the L0 Navcam.
jvandriel
jvandriel
Oct 11 2006, 09:39 AM
Here is that same place before brushing.
Taken on Sol 961 with the Mi camera.
jvandriel
Nirgal
Oct 11 2006, 10:51 AM
QUOTE (mhoward @ Oct 8 2006, 04:16 PM)
I see this one has already been done. Never the less, here's a 360x90 equirectangular projection of the Sol 959 Navcam pan facing East, followed by the full 360x180 version facing North, suitable for viewing in FSPViewer or another spherical panorama viewer.
I have not had much time lately to browse the forum ... but *WOW*
what a breathtaking view !
Congratulations Micheal, your panorama stitching work is getting better and better
This one is unbelievable... one of the definite all-time-favourite MER images !!
P.S. how did you manage to avoid the stitching-bumps in the horizon ??I understand you're using PTAssembler .. what additional tricks do you do in addition to the auto-exported MMB-panorama-files
to flatten/smoothen the horizon ... is it a matter of finding good control-points aong the horizon line ?
mhoward
Oct 11 2006, 01:59 PM
Thanks, Nirgal. To answer your question, I'm exporting a PTGui project from MMB and using PTGui to stitch it. I am not generating any control points; MMB puts the camera pointing information in the PTGui project. That seems to eliminate most of the stitching errors that one tends to get in Autostitch (which was kind of the point, come to think of it). It also allows things like the Sol 950 Clouds stitch, which probably couldn't have been done without the camera pointings. Anyway, there's an option in the MMB panorama feature to export these PTGui/Hugin project files along with the brightness adjusted images; I think it's been discussed a little elsewhere. Only problem with it is that it depends on the MMB panorama metadata, which I update online based on the tracking info.
Stu
Oct 11 2006, 09:44 PM
Floyd
Oct 13 2006, 09:43 PM
Will Opportunity be taking a big panorama from her current location during conjunction? Has anyone seen the commands show up in the image tracking log?
Thanks, Floyd
climber
Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM
QUOTE (Floyd @ Oct 13 2006, 11:43 PM)
Will Opportunity be taking a big panorama from her current location during conjunction? Has anyone seen the commands show up in the image tracking log?
Thanks, Floyd
Better to hurry! Officialy conjunction starts on October 16th
alan
Oct 15 2006, 04:50 PM
jamescanvin
Oct 16 2006, 04:03 AM
And the "Soup Dragon" posts moved to a dedicated thread.
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=3353James
Stu
Oct 16 2006, 06:00 AM
I think this image shows how amazing it is that we're getting ANYTHING from Mars at the moment...
Mars approaches the Sun(Mars is the "star" to the left of the obscured Sun, and that's Venus on the right...)
ustrax
Oct 17 2006, 01:46 PM
Looks like the intention passes for giving names of Cabo Verde's islands to the studied targets on the promontory...Great!
Ilha do Fogo's (Island of Fire) landscape always seemed to me
from another world...Something like Mars should look like And I'm curious to know what place will be named after
Ilha do Sal (Island of Salt)...
And, even if we don't have Ultreya (the pilgrims shout towards Santiago), we'll have Santiago itself at Victoria...
EDITED: One question...Can someone tell me where is located the Maio target referred on the update?
Tesheiner
Oct 17 2006, 03:31 PM
Six sols, four drives and 127.61 meters (419 feet) later, Opportunity arrived at the rock target "Fogo" near the tip of Cape Verde.Fogo = Fire = Ustrax.
QUOTE (ustrax @ Oct 17 2006, 03:46 PM)
EDITED: One question...Can someone tell me where is located the Maio target referred on the update?
It comes from a pancam shot taken on sol 955 in all filters before leaving Duck Bay, but only the tiny thumbnails have been downlinked for the time being. Here are two of them (L2 and L7), and you can see it's just another general view of the whole Cabo Verde as seen from Duck Bay.
Click to view attachment Click to view attachmentEdited: Perhaps they are referring to the Cape's Wall as "Maio".
ustrax
Oct 17 2006, 03:38 PM
Tesheiner
Oct 17 2006, 03:57 PM
> About Maio, it appears on the update as Cabo Verde Maio all togetherThat name comes from here:
CODE
Sol Seq.Ver ETH ESF EDN EFF ERP Tot Description
--- -------- --- --- --- --- --- ---- -----------
955 p2588.16 13 13 0 0 2 28 pancam_cape_verde_maio_L234567Rall
It's a "single" shot covering only the fov seen on the little thumbnails.
This pancam shot taken on sol 953 covers almost the same area.
ustrax
Oct 17 2006, 04:15 PM
QUOTE (ustrax @ Oct 17 2006, 04:38 PM)
[color=#ff0000]816 posts and you're still quoting the whole of the post before yours...with all its images..... SLAP
- Doug.
Deserved...
Tesheiner
Oct 19 2006, 09:10 AM
FYI, the rover has already started to take the "Cape Verde Panorama".
CODE
4. What EDRs did we request?
Expected EDRs by sequence number and image type:
Sol Seq.Ver ETH ESF EDN EFF ERP Tot Description
--- -------- --- --- --- --- --- ---- -----------
970 p2400.08 4 0 0 4 2 10 pancam_cape_verde_pt01_L257R2
971 p2401.08 4 0 0 4 2 10 pancam_cape_verde_pt02_L257R2
972 p2402.08 4 0 0 4 2 10 pancam_cape_verde_pt03_L257R2
973 p2403.08 4 0 0 4 2 10 pancam_cape_verde_pt04_L257R2
It's sloooowly being taken, one pointing per sol, perhaps slower than McMurdo.
Off couse it won't be as big as McMurdo but assuming it's similar to Duck Bay's panorama (14x2) it will need a whole month to be adquired. For the time being only the tiny thumbnails for sols 970 and 971 have hit the ground.
Bill Harris
Oct 19 2006, 02:59 PM
That makes sense, Tescheiner: Oppy has been programmed in an 'automatic' mode and will be working on the major first Victoria panorama during the conjunction hiatus. And, hopefully, is making a long MB integration.
Bobby
Oct 21 2006, 03:46 AM
CosmicRocker
Oct 21 2006, 04:21 AM
Ha Ha Ha...
Any resemblance is purely coincidental.
Pando
Oct 21 2006, 04:54 AM
QUOTE (ustrax @ Oct 17 2006, 08:38 AM)
[color=#ff0000]816 posts and you're still quoting the whole of the post before yours...with all its images..... SLAP
- Doug.
OT: Hey Doug, can't you modify the PHP code to turn off the quote button by default?
SigurRosFan
Oct 23 2006, 05:42 PM
Er, did someone note this fantastic special-effects image?
-
Superimposed Rover on Rim of Victoria CraterOpportunity on Cape Verde:
djellison
Oct 23 2006, 05:46 PM
QUOTE (Pando @ Oct 21 2006, 05:54 AM)
OT: Hey Doug, can't you modify the PHP code to turn off the quote button by default?
No. (and if I could...I wouldn't anyway)
If you need to quote a person, you hit the 'reply' button at the bottom right hand corner of their post
If you don't need to quote a person you hit the 'add reply' button at the end of the thread.
It's not that difficult really
And even if you hit reply not add reply, editing out a quote really is very easy, and I'm an utter HTML/PHP/SQL moron
Doug
(PS - SRF..those SFX images have been released for more than a fortnight - they came out at the Friday HiRISE/MER press con )
SigurRosFan
Oct 23 2006, 06:21 PM
Doug, I've just overlooked it.
jamescanvin
Nov 7 2006, 12:03 AM
I'm pretty sure that this
CODE
00991 p2419.08 36 12 0 24 2 74 pancam_cape_verde_9pos_L257R2
Is the last part of of the Cape Verde pan.
So we could be on the road again fairly soon. Beacon here we come.
jamescanvin
Nov 8 2006, 04:23 AM
And indeed, it looks like tosol (992) is a driving sol.
Let the magical mystery tour continue...
James
CosmicRocker
Nov 8 2006, 04:48 AM
I am eager to see what is around the next bend, but it would be nice to see what Opportunity has already seen here. The downlinks are still painfully few and far between. I gather, from Doug's surprise interview with SS yesterday, that we are still waiting for more solar power to allow the morning downlinks. I also enjoyed hearing that we can expect months of pancams from 90-120 degrees around the lovely north side before taking the plunge.
That was a very insightful discussion, Doug. Thanks, and I hope you can do another before next year.
Tesheiner
Nov 8 2006, 11:21 AM
QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Nov 8 2006, 05:23 AM)
And indeed, it looks like tosol (992) is a driving sol.
Glad to know that.
OT: It will be time to re-start the route mapping but I'm currently too busy (and will probably be for the next couple of months) and unfortunately I can't find spare time to dedicate to the mapping task.
kenny
Nov 8 2006, 01:01 PM
excuse my ignorance, but where can we find the Doug interview with SS?
Tesheiner
Nov 8 2006, 01:04 PM
djellison
Nov 8 2006, 01:11 PM
I even moved the news section to the top of the forum so no one would miss it....so....how could someone not notice it?
Doug
kenny
Nov 8 2006, 05:46 PM
Ah....
thanks Tesh.... and Doug. The explanation for "how" is that I'm permanently book-marked into Opportunity only and due to selective myopia am not seeing anything above that level at the moment. My narrow-mindedness... ! K
imipak
Nov 12 2006, 03:34 PM
QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 8 2006, 01:11 PM)
I even moved the news section to the top of the forum so no one would miss it....so....how could someone not notice it?
"top of the forum"? Personally I find it hard going just to keep up with the MER forums, and like Kenny my bookmarks are of the Spirit and Opportunity thread index pages. Are there really any regular users who start a session at the very top level? If you (Doug) hadn't linked to the interview from a post down here in 'Oppy', I wouldn't have known it was there. In fact, when I came to post my chunk of the transcript, I couldn't find my way back at all; I had to return to your original "these questions and many more are answered here-->" post, and follow the link again, before I could figure out it's location in the tree. Just my 2e...
djellison
Nov 12 2006, 04:50 PM
Well what else am I to do? I can't spam-email everyone with important forum news items - the onus is on people who visit to check in with that forum for important notes regarding rules, downtime, and cool things such as the Steve update.
I have to start at the top level, and then do a 'view new posts' which whilst not 100% reliable is a fairly good way of checking in with everything.
Doug
CosmicRocker
Nov 13 2006, 05:09 AM
QUOTE (imipak @ Nov 12 2006, 09:34 AM)
... Are there really any regular users who start a session at the very top level? ...
I do. Actually, I use Firefox and open the top level and the other MER levels in tabs at the same time. I've always found the top level to be a useful page to scan, to see where interesting discussions are developing. Still, I often neglected to scoll all the way to the bottom of the main page in my haste to learn the latest about the rovers. I used to force myself to open the Front Page just to avoid missing important stuff. I think Doug's relocation of the front page to the top was the perfect solution for me. Community Chit-Chat and Forum Management are also general areas to keep an eye on.
dvandorn
Nov 13 2006, 01:37 PM
I also go to the "top page" of the forum when I bring the site up. I use the indicators to see where there have been new posts; from the top level, the large forum icons indicate which ones have new posts, and within the fora, threads are marked as having new posts with a red flag. I simply click on the red flags and am taken directly to the newest posts in each thread.
And yes, I read every new post. Every day.
-the other Doug
climber
Nov 13 2006, 01:53 PM
QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 12 2006, 05:50 PM)
I have to start at the top level, and then do a 'view new posts' which whilst not 100% reliable is a fairly good way of checking in with everything.
Doug
It's what I do too and I find it very handy! It's so easy to miss something important (like MGS story developing right now) if you don't go to "View New Posts".
If you go there on a regular basis, you can see what has changed (generaly fit on one screen) and choose what is of interest for you... unless you're Doug or The Other Doug and check everything
and regarding time you can dedicate.
I personaly cannot think of a better organisation (knowing that I have no experience with other forums).
kenny
Nov 13 2006, 06:58 PM
Actually, we're just talking here about little points of convenience and detail. The whole forum exercise is a truly amazing insight into exploration as it happens on another world ... it's like sitting on the deck of Captain Cook's ship as it weaves around the ocean, watching close up what the crew does, inspecting what they find, and having a privileged opportunity to ask real time questions.... astonishing really!
Kenny
imipak
Nov 14 2006, 08:10 PM
QUOTE (climber @ Nov 13 2006, 01:53 PM)
It's what I do too and I find it very handy! It's so easy to miss something important (like MGS story developing right now) if you don't go to "View New Posts".
Well, thanks Doug, climber, dvandorn, and cosmic_rocker -- I hadn't realised that ("view new posts") was a really usable mode. Hmmm, 23 posts in the last 24 hours... perhaps I'm a slow reader? (or just slow?
I have to admit I feel rather defensive now about being such a slacker about keeping up, which tends to mean I'm wrong, and I know it, but don't want to admit it. "Must try harder", as my old teachers used to say. Perhaps if I put a couple of other hobbies in a box in the loft for a while...
Anyway, as Kenny said:
QUOTE
Actually, we're just talking here about little points of convenience and detail. The whole forum exercise is a truly amazing insight into exploration as it happens on another world ...
Absolutely right
Doug /did/ post a link up here, I did see it, and I really enjoyed the interview. It's all good
ustrax
Nov 16 2006, 11:09 AM
antoniseb
Nov 16 2006, 01:05 PM
I'm curious about why the information from the MERs has been so infrequent recently. They are out from behind the Sun, and have done a little bit of roving since the conjunction, but there's no sign of new data in six days. Has the failure of the MGS had an impact on the other missions? Or has some other issue impacted this mission? Or is this a normal situation?
BTW, congrats to Opportunity on getting to Sol 1000.
Sunspot
Nov 16 2006, 01:32 PM
antoniseb,
It seems whatever process gets the images out onto the various websites has broken down.
akuo
Nov 16 2006, 02:07 PM
I doubt that the problem is at the website stage, since the pancam tracking site isn't showing anything being received either. But new commands are still sent to the rovers solly according to the same site. I suspect this all has more to do with the recovery efforts of MGS...
Marz
Nov 16 2006, 08:31 PM
QUOTE (antoniseb @ Nov 16 2006, 07:05 AM)
BTW, congrats to Opportunity on getting to Sol 1000.
Nice tribute posters by Doug mentioned on Emily's blog:
http://planetary.org/image/djellison_spirit_2000_large.jpghttp://planetary.org/image/djellison_oppor..._2000_large.jpg B)
fredk
Nov 17 2006, 05:19 PM
Beautiful view of Cape Verde and Duck Bay in the background from sol 995 location on CSM:
Click to view attachmentFrom this point of view Verde looks like a knife-thin promontory jutting into the crater - amazing to think we were sitting near its tip over conjuction!
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