Now yes - while it's fair to say we have arrived at the rim of Vic - the rule were that the 'arrival' date would be the sol at which the rover arrives at the point from which the mother-of-all-pans is taken... so we're not there yet. (i.e. We'll probably take photos when we arrive in Valencia on Sat PM - but personally, I wont feel I've arrived till the following morning when I have a look out the window....and you're right Fred - it's that FIRST big MOAP that is the important one )

But that doesn't mean we can't have a new thread

Doug

quick pano

sol 952 L0

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Beautiful pans, Doug! But I think it should be "the first of the mother-of-all-pans"! We'll have dramatically different views from every cape/bay, and I'm sure we'll do many pans from the rim!

Couldn't resist it... lens flare and all!

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WOW!!

To me, it totally feels like we've arrived, Tosol!!!

Well, someone's making a fortune off what I'm putting in the swear box!

Like I said yesterday: topography!!!

I just love that we have to now worry about completely new things that really neither rover has had to before, certainly not to this degree. As we've said already, there's the sun/communications link visibility from near the vicinity of a cliff. With todays images, another one occurs to me: We have to be careful about what time of day we image cliff faces - large areas of Capes Frio and Verde are in deep shadow in these images!

Doug, we need a drool smily!

Wow.





Be sure to click the link to "Original" size for the full effect...

Here is the Sol 952 Navcam equirectangular if someone wants to make a wild polar...

That would be the mother-in-law-of-all-pans, followed by the maternal- and paternal- grandmother-of-all-pans, followed by the fairy-godmother-of-all-pans... Sofi Crater will probably have to make do with a stepmother-of-all-pans.

Same feeling here

-- Rakhir

Oh man!! These images are freaking me out

Nico

What we thought might be 2x2's are obviously going to be those 2 4x1's in L257.... for planning ( i.e. highest res terrain mesh ) the L7/R1's came down first, and if there's another UHF pass today, the 2's and 5's might come down....pretty

Doug

What wonderful outcrops and active erosional features. I'm all a'quiver with the first views of the Victoria rim and capes and bays. Looking at the surface of Duck Bay it does look passable for an initial toe-dip. I'm almost giddy in anticipation over the first L257's we'll be getting in the next couple of Sols.

--Bill

From here Cabo Frio looks a doddle and would be my choice for the MOA pans. Cape Verde is probably OK, but has that slope towards the crater. I'd hate for us to slip down there....

Castor

vertical projection 1cm/pix

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Here is just a part of the Victoria panorama.

Taken with the L7 pancam.

It reminds me of the walls of the Grand Canyon.

jvandriel

Let me just finsh to take my eyes and put in their orbits...

One second...

Okay guys.

There is a [censored] view of Victoria. It's so... incredible! Incredible, amazing, astounding are the good words!

HAIL VICTORIA!


So, my own images about that :
Sol 950


Sol 951


And many resolutions : http://www.astrosurf.com/merimages/Images_...06.html#Sol_951

Incredible...

Here is the other part.

Taken with the L7 pancam.

jvandriel

woaw (again), a first mosaic, I'm actually enjoying these views too much to make mosaics any faster



Nico

I didn't want to make a whole new thread about this, but to me, now comes a very obvious question:

Which outcrop shows the deepest stratigraphy in this crater?

It's a little early, but outside of Frio (P4) and Verde(A1) and B2(not yet imaged?) there's also the puny wall that is at the base of F2 that could be wall or vertical slump block next to the larger slump block.

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The surface of the bay may be navigable, but getting over the dune along the edge might be tricky, at least where the rover currently is parked. It looks to be shorter as one goes to the right along the edge of the bay towards the cape and is potentially navigable there. It is interesting how the dune bridges a gully extending up from the bay. Being near the center of the bay, I would guess the prevailing winds make the dune highest near where Oppy is parked and lower as one goes toward either cape.

Thanks!
Did you notice the faces? That would make excellent avatars!
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OMG! No, I didn't see those... but I can now... now it looks even more like the nickname I gave it, "Gargoyle Tower"

I did spot a giant fossil embedded in the cliffside tho...

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Calling Mr Hoagland... Mr Hoagland to the nearest phone please...

Here is the Navcam panorama of Victoria.

Taken with the L0 Navcam.

jvandriel

Very nice Stu!

Nico

Karl, I think that "gully" is actually a crater just outside of the rim. The official jpl release called it "Duck Crater".

Cabo Verde...



Nico

Just to clarify things a bit amidst this mad flurry of images, the pancams we had down today are actually from the sol 951 location. Some were taken sol 951, some sol 952 before the bump up towards the rim.

An y guesses on how tall the "bluff" is? can't quite get a sense of scale..just like when oppy first landed and first pics came down..thought it was a huge wall it was in front of...

These new stunning pictures from Mars are so stimulating...
After dedusting of PTGui I tried to bring additionally a bit more light on the cliff (indeed Michael brought it already).

Man oh man, I was just going gaga over the latest images on the old thread and then I discover this! I thought I was going to fall off my seat looking down at the floor of the crater To me, this is the first image that instantaneously gives a sense of how big/deep Victoria is.

Thanks Indian3000!!..............any chance of getting the corresponding right image as well for an all out stereo plunge into the crater??

Lot's of requests for scale info - here's my measurement of the size of the Verde cliff:
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And here's the height of Frio cliff:
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These values are roughly consistent with the heights of cliffs on the far rim we can see.

Edit: these are based on distances of 59 metres to Verde and 120 metres to Frio cliffs.

That Capo Verde outcrop looks like it would be reasonable to reach. The slope in the Duck Bay next to the outcrop looks reasonable at first glance, making that outcrop what I would think would be a good first glance target. Some of the rocks lower down in the sequence in that outcrop look layered, though I am a bit concerned that the impacting processing may have altered the original arrangment of the rocks in that area, making it difficult to assess which rocks came first in the sequence.

Thanks for those measurements fredk, I already had the impression I was underestimating the size

Left/Right views for use with SPM or whatever stereoviewers you have out there..

Cabo Frio - left eye



Cabo Frio - right eye



Cabo Verde - left eye



Cabo Verde - right eye



Nico

I think, in imperial units, 15.3 meters works out to "Holy cow! Over 50 feet!"

I'm a bit out of form. Dose ~15 m mean that we could be already deeper in the layering than it was possible inside Endurance?

Tman - I read recently that Endurance gave us about 7 metres. Perhaps someone could confirm this?

Nico - Nico! Thanks so much for L and R pans - I love to view with Stereophotomaker.

Yes, SPM is great! Do you Auto-align the images, it seems to be doing a good job on that (latest version I think it is..)

Nico

(Deep bass voice here)

Ooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh Yeeeaaaaaahhhh !!

I love the fine layering above Cabo Frio. All sorts of interesting structure over there. Neat.

A question: Are we sure that the current view shows us the whole slope continuously down to the dunefield? Could there perhaps be a mini-horizon effect at the entrance of Duck Bay (about the distance of the foot of the Cape Verde cliff) and beyond that a somewhat steeper slope down?

The rocks may be jumbled but there are layers everywhere
Roy F

is it this you want ?

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Thanks Fred. This press release gives the height of Burns Cliff back at Endurance as 10m - which falls right between your measurements of Cabo Verde and Cabo Frio.

Oh yes! And for the one that don't get a feeling of the size of the cliffs : here is one foot
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The UMSF rockhounds can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe we've moved down-section from Endurance as well, so we may be able to see even deeper

I realy LOVE this. Never thought we could have this kind of feeling. Thanks Indian3000

Wow and double-clink! What a great birthday present today's pics are.

Can we get some mystery men down there?

Brian

Is this kind of right...ish..?

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If Oppy's twin should like just to park on Frio Cliff, it may look like:

(Oops...O'lala... ) http://www.greuti.ch/oppy/oppy_sol952_olala.jpg

edit:
Stuart, looks like we got about the same size on the cliff. (Is he an average European? )

Happy Birthday Brian!

BTW, tomorrow will be Spirit 1000th day on Mars (Earth days, not Sols)