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Stu
Ahhh, how soon we forget... rolleyes.gif

A couple of years ago Titan was just an orange-tinted spark next to Saturn in my telescope eyepiece on clear nights. I knew it was a world, because Voyager had sent back those images showing it as a murky orange ball, fuzzy atmosphere and all, but that was all anyone knew really. Now we have a picture of its surface, and, wonder of wonders, an actual map, showing it has landscapes and topography beyond our wildest dreams. I'm sure that map will get much, much better as time goes by, but for now I'm happy to have any map at all. Good work guys, thanks. smile.gif
volcanopele
For those who want a combined ISS map and RADAR swath (up to T8) Photoshop file, check out: http://pirlwww.lpl.arizona.edu/~perry/Tita...map.release.psd. I was going to include a VIMS map from T8 and T9, but that ballooned the file to over 164 MB, almost 5 times its current 35 MB size.
Decepticon
QUOTE
Happy now?


Ummm yes and no! I expected something a little more cleaned up.

I'm not bashing your work, I thought it would be a little more cleaned up.


Anyways gives all the Photoshop artist and chance to have some fun!



Thanks VP! biggrin.gif


PS Great PDF!!!!
volcanopele
Well, I'm still work on smoothing techniques across multiple data sets. I'll admit this one was more of a case of needing to get something out since we haven't had a released map update since January of last year. Unfortunately that's about as cleaned up as I could get it without using destructive low pass filters. The data is already a bit blurry, I see no point in making it worse.
ugordan
I for one am not underwhelmed by the update as I realized any update couldn't bring much greater resolution than what was already available at Shangri-La. This is probably as high a resolution as we'll get from ISS. One must always keep the expectations reasonable. That's one of the reasons the overdue release delay bothered me, though. That said, I do find the Fensal-Aztlan region to be better defined than Shangri-La. As JRehling said, it appears less grainy. Weren't the pixel scales for the mosaics comparable? Is this a result of different camera parameters / filter combos as the Fensal region looks well defined, albeit including those texture seams? Am I right in assuming you didn't use every flyby that provided repeated coverage (over Fensal), for improved S/N ratio and reduced seaming?
volcanopele
The mosaics used in the Fensal-Aztlan region have a higher pixel scale than those used in the Shangri-la region. Maps incorporating Ta and Tb REGMAP and HIRES should be available in a future release.
Bob Shaw
Well, I for one am far from underwhelmed. A couple of years back, even seeing the 'H' in those early Earth-based images - remember? - seemed beyond belief. Now we're seeing so much more, and with the promise of more to come!

I can wait!

Bob Shaw
ustrax
QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Dec 29 2006, 10:18 PM) *
Well, I for one am far from underwhelmed. A couple of years back, even seeing the 'H' in those early Earth-based images - remember? - seemed beyond belief. Now we're seeing so much more, and with the promise of more to come!

I can wait!

Bob Shaw


Bob is back!
Bob is raw!
Here's an "HURRAH!" for Bob,
the Shaw! biggrin.gif
Decepticon
biggrin.gif laugh.gif LOL
nprev
I for one would love to see a surface temp overlay on all these features (yep...cryovolcano seeker here! smile.gif )
Decepticon
^^Maybe next Holiday Season! wink.gif
Olvegg
Well, there are some changes on Titan surface! blink.gif Mezzoramia looks very pale compared to previous map and two or three white spots appear near 15 and 20 degrees WL. Yet another one white dot encircled in dark near 50 WL 65 SL disappear. What can it be? Really changes, artefacts of processing or just clouds?
nprev
Good eye, Olvegg. I'd have to bet on convective clouds, especially for high-latitude features like these; seems like the polar regions are where most of the action's at for Titan's weather.
volcanopele
Yeah, really bright spots at high latitudes are more than likely clouds. It seems that when ever we look at the south polar region at decent enough emission angles that the images can be used in maps, there are clouds down there, so it is hard to remove ALL the clouds from the map.

In terms of contrast difference, I chalk that up to differences in the my sharpening filter in the last 2 years.
JTN
I've always been surprised that there aren't more amateur Titan ORS mosaics here. (I realise it's a bit of a challenge, but that doesn't usually stop you lot...)
ugordan
Surprisingly, there aren't a whole lot of people playing around any Cassini images that I can see. Titan would make a pretty hard target to work with, given no easy way to reduce atmospheric haze. You really need excellent flatfields and either you can brew your own ones (hard to do manually) or work with the not so good ones on the calibration volumes. There's a lot to be desired there, especially for the wide-angle camera flatfields which would make simple mosaics easier than taking a shot at high-res NAC footprints. Geometric reprojection would also be handy since the exposures are long and the flybys pretty fast. SPICE kernels in other words...
nprev
Just had an odd thought...Is Titan a cold "desert" planet?

Specifically, it almost seems as if the polar regions are the only areas where precipitation seems to occur with any degree of regularity. If Titan was a terrestrial planet with a similar pattern, the expectation would be that the lower latitudes were too hot to sustain an Earth-style hydrological cycle, and only the poles were temperate enough for habitation...like some of the pre-UMSF ideas about Venus, in some ways.

Again, just a thought. No matter how good our maps get, I think that interpreting them within an understandable framework will be a challenge for a LONG time.
JRehling
QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 30 2006, 04:06 PM) *
Surprisingly, there aren't a whole lot of people playing around any Cassini images that I can see. Titan would make a pretty hard target to work with, given no easy way to reduce atmospheric haze. You really need excellent flatfields and either you can brew your own ones (hard to do manually) or work with the not so good ones on the calibration volumes.


Yeah. When the first flybys happened in 2004, I tried my hand at it, with some success, but it was a lot of work to lead to a modest product not that far in advance of the "pro" releases. I attached my work from the first 24 hours of the first flyby in July 2004. I didn't try this again.

I used a Hapke map I'd produced for some other world to adjust for phase effects, but I forget which world I had developed the model for. Mercury, I think. Then I just twiddled in Photoshop with no principles but what seemed to look OK. Composite of three ISS frames.
Decepticon
Is there any online reference as to how the titan images are produced??

Tricks and Tips! biggrin.gif
Gsnorgathon
QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 31 2006, 02:31 AM) *
Just had an odd thought...Is Titan a cold "desert" planet?

...

Why is that an odd thought? It sure seems a good fit to the available evidence. I wouldn't want to make any firm generalizations about poles vs equatorial regions until we've seen what happens as the equinox approaches, though. I'm hoping Cassini lasts long enough.
Bob Shaw
QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 31 2006, 02:31 AM) *
Just had an odd thought...Is Titan a cold "desert" planet?


Hmm... ...that'd mean camels, wouldn't it? Camels might indicate *life*. If there's life there must be awl (it's a dessert, see?). If there's awl, we better invade!

Hey, things are looking up for the unmanned spaceflight budgie!

Still, if it's a dessert the proof will always be in the pudding.


Bob Shaw
scalbers
QUOTE (Decepticon @ Dec 31 2006, 04:01 AM) *
Is there any online reference as to how the titan images are produced??

Tricks and Tips! biggrin.gif


I think there was a CICLOPS release illustrating some of the processing steps. VP may also have mentioned some details. One of the more unique steps involved subtracting an image in a neighboring wavelength (from the 900nm passband) thus acting as a flat field. I suppose having a simple atmospheric model can provide similar flat-fielding information.

There were some sharpening steps as well to compensate for the haze diffusion.
volcanopele
QUOTE (Decepticon @ Dec 30 2006, 09:01 PM) *
Is there any online reference as to how the titan images are produced??

Tricks and Tips! biggrin.gif

Check out my LPSC abstract on the subject from a couple of years ago:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/2312.pdf
nprev
QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Dec 31 2006, 12:08 AM) *
Hmm... ...that'd mean camels, wouldn't it? Camels might indicate *life*. If there's life there must be awl (it's a dessert, see?). If there's awl, we better invade!

Hey, things are looking up for the unmanned spaceflight budgie!

Still, if it's a dessert the proof will always be in the pudding.
Bob Shaw


Well, at least we know the ice cream won't melt...EVER! rolleyes.gif

BTW, does anyone know what the current thinking is as far as 'methane monsoons'? Presumably they occur (if in fact they do) twice per Saturn year as the polar illumination gradually switches, and they probably wouldn't happen precisely at the time of the equinox due to thermal inertia. Any evidence of convective clouds creeping north from the southern hemisphere yet, or even happening further south due to the aformentioned inertia?

Some of the features in the equatorial regions remind me more and more of arroyos in the US Southwest. You have to wonder whether the atmosphere becomes supersaturated with methane and then one day just busts loose all over the equator... blink.gif
JRehling
QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 31 2006, 12:40 PM) *
Well, at least we know the ice cream won't melt...EVER! rolleyes.gif

BTW, does anyone know what the current thinking is as far as 'methane monsoons'? Presumably they occur (if in fact they do) twice per Saturn year as the polar illumination gradually switches, and they probably wouldn't happen precisely at the time of the equinox due to thermal inertia. Any evidence of convective clouds creeping north from the southern hemisphere yet, or even happening further south due to the aformentioned inertia?

Some of the features in the equatorial regions remind me more and more of arroyos in the US Southwest. You have to wonder whether the atmosphere becomes supersaturated with methane and then one day just busts loose all over the equator... blink.gif


I happened to drive across Arizona on I40 on a snowy day shortly after the second (?) Cassini flyby of Titan and I couldn't help but notice how much it seemed to fit what we knew about Titan.

What we know from Voyager and Cassini seems to indicate that the summer pole gets a ring of convection around 80 N/S that creates a lot of rain there. What happens at the equinox or in the dark of the winter pole we don't know yet, but notice that there appear to be lakes in the winter pole now and perhaps at the summer pole as well. I imagine Ralph Lorenz has ventured some opinions. I would guess that the (near) poles get more rain than any other location, enough to fill up lakes that are still full through a decades-long drought.

One of the most important things about Cassini's extended mission will be to see what seasonal changes take place on Titan. Bigger cloud structures can be seen from Earth, though, and presumably from the Webb Space Telescope.
nprev
Yeah, JR--I used to live in Tucson, and that's exactly the same impression I got. The entire area is usually dry as a bone all year until monsoon season hits in June/July, and then it's flash-flood time which produces/reinforces all these massive arroyos. Perhaps the same thing happens in Titan's equatorial regions every 14.5 terrestrial years or so...
Juramike
Does anyone out there have a hypothesis/explanation for the distinctly swoopy pattern of the overall look of the margin of the of the bright terrain against the dark terrain?

It seems that the bright features have an almost parallel aerodynamic look to them. This is particulary evident in the margins around Shangri-La (basin).

This has been fascinating me since the first pass: to my eyes, they look almost like a terrestrial fjord landscape.

Could this be resulting from wind deposition of upland (bright) material from cryovolcanic airfall?
Or could this be from wind deposition of the organic “shizzle” which piles up downwind against the bright material?
Or is it possible that there has been an equivalent of a past ice age on Titan, with methane snows piling up, forming methane glaciers, and coming down off Xanadu and other upland terrains?

Any ideas?

-Mike
Bob Shaw
QUOTE (Juramike @ Jan 2 2007, 08:35 PM) *
Does anyone out there have a hypothesis/explanation for the distinctly swoopy pattern of the overall look of the margin of the of the bright terrain against the dark terrain?

It seems that the bright features have an almost parallel aerodynamic look to them. This is particulary evident in the margins around Shangri-La (basin).

This has been fascinating me since the first pass: to my eyes, they look almost like a terrestrial fjord landscape.

-Mike


Mike:

I don't quite know what 'swoopy' landforms are like, but as for the rest it looks just like the west coast of Scotland - a fjord landscape... ...AIRC, 'Scotland' was indeed one of the nicknames used back in the early days!


Bob Shaw
JRehling
QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 2 2007, 02:54 PM) *
Mike:

I don't quite know what 'swoopy' landforms are like, but as for the rest it looks just like the west coast of Scotland - a fjord landscape... ...AIRC, 'Scotland' was indeed one of the nicknames used back in the early days!
Bob Shaw


I just went back to the Planetary Sciences Yahoo! group and saw that at 4:09pm on July 2, 2004, I posted:

"Image N00006513.jpg... first thing I think of is a map of Scotland."

That was about 2 1/2 hours after the first images came down. Took a while to de-haze them enough.

My half-considered explanation for the Scottish shape would be that tectonic uplift in this area caused a lot of faulting with the same orientation, with the crust buckling according to different spatial frequencies. Large-scale buckles give the overall shape of Xanadu's northwestern "coast" while small-scale buckles make the whole thing look like corduroy... as do various locations up the Pacific Coast of the Americas, Scotland, and other places on Earth.

One of the interesting things is that Xanadu has moderately dark "lochs" near but not part of (or as dark as) Shangri-La. Probably the same sediments that darkened Shangri-La, but in lesser amounts.
Juramike
QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 3 2007, 10:29 AM) *
My half-considered explanation for the Scottish shape would be that tectonic uplift in this area caused a lot of faulting with the same orientation, with the crust buckling according to different spatial frequencies. Large-scale buckles give the overall shape of Xanadu's northwestern "coast" while small-scale buckles make the whole thing look like corduroy... as do various locations up the Pacific Coast of the Americas, Scotland, and other places on Earth.

One of the interesting things is that Xanadu has moderately dark "lochs" near but not part of (or as dark as) Shangri-La. Probably the same sediments that darkened Shangri-La, but in lesser amounts.



So, the tectonic uplift causes the general buckling....and then the infilling of the lowland basins by the dark material causes a ria (drowned valley) topography?

In this case the drowning of the valleys is caused not by a rise in seawater (like on Earth), but by the gradual infilling of the the dark material basins due to the organic "schizzle" raining down?

[Thus the dark lochs are shallower accumulations of the organic ooze.]

Or is a glacial event still a possibility?

-Mike
Bjorn Jonsson
QUOTE (JTN @ Dec 30 2006, 11:16 PM) *
I've always been surprised that there aren't more amateur Titan ORS mosaics here. (I realise it's a bit of a challenge, but that doesn't usually stop you lot...)

Yes, this is very surprising. In my case one reason is that all of my recent Cassini image processing has involved a huge map covering Saturn's entire southern hemisphere. See this thread, especially the message I posted there today.

QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 31 2006, 12:06 AM) *
Surprisingly, there aren't a whole lot of people playing around any Cassini images that I can see. Titan would make a pretty hard target to work with, given no easy way to reduce atmospheric haze. You really need excellent flatfields and either you can brew your own ones (hard to do manually) or work with the not so good ones on the calibration volumes. There's a lot to be desired there, especially for the wide-angle camera flatfields which would make simple mosaics easier than taking a shot at high-res NAC footprints. Geometric reprojection would also be handy since the exposures are long and the flybys pretty fast. SPICE kernels in other words...

One idea might be to reduce noise by reprojecting several images of the same (or roughly same) area into a simple cylindrical map containing their 'sum' (a similar idea to superresolution processing). However, this requires extremely accurate pointing information since there are no high contrast features to use as an accurate guide if the results of reprojecting two or more images don't exactly match. The Cassini index files (index.tab) contain viewing geometry information but when making the previously mentioned map of Saturn I got slightly more accurate results by using the SPICE kernels directly.
Holder of the Two Leashes
Edit: Sorry, didn't realize the map had already posted. Should have read the earlier posts.
scalbers
Greetings,

Here's a real quick 1K Titan map taking the latest official one from late 2006 and overlaying mosaics from a couple of the recent flybys. As usual this can be refined in the future. Perhaps even some north polar radar mosaics can be added if they are on a suitable projection - a certain map I noticed from EC comes to mind.

http://laps.noaa.gov/albers/sos/saturn/tit...cyl_070621c.jpg
David
QUOTE (scalbers @ Jun 21 2007, 09:47 PM) *
Greetings,

Here's a real quick 1K Titan map taking the latest official one from late 2006 and overlaying mosaics from a couple of the recent flybys.


Very nice!

But it gets me thinking again about the global distributions of different terrains and climates on Titan. The overall picture seems clear: Titan is a semi-desert moon, wet at the poles, very dry around the equator, with an equatorial belt of sand-seas in (it seems) lower terrain. Which raises the following questions for me:

1) Why is the equatorial belt so irregular in shape? Just chance variations in elevation?

2) What constrains the desert belt to north and south? Or to put it another way, what's going on in the temperate zone in terrains that would be deserts if they were equatorial?
stevesliva
That's nice!

Although a mercator projection centered at the equator distorts exactly what is interesting at Titan... wink.gif
Juramike
Wow! Nice job!

-Mike
Juramike
QUOTE (David @ Jun 21 2007, 08:04 PM) *
1) Why is the equatorial belt so irregular in shape? Just chance variations in elevation?


Elevation differences, yes. Chance? Maybe not.

I suspect Xanadu might be playing a role. It might be acting like Tharsis bulge on Mars. Big cryovolcanic construct, big mass put on surface, gets drifted to equator. Why the Sand Seas are where they are on either side of Xanadu and in approximate line with the Equater is bugging me too. The pattern of Tharsis/Vallis Marineris on Mars and Xanadu/Fensal-Quivra-Azltan = "The Big H" on Titan is eerily similar.

Also, since we haven't imaged all of Titan in really good detail, there could be other low-lying Sand Seas in temperate zones as well. (And what would a raised Sand Sea basin look like?) Mezzoramia might be one of these.


QUOTE (David @ Jun 21 2007, 08:04 PM) *
2) What constrains the desert belt to north and south? Or to put it another way, what's going on in the temperate zone in terrains that would be deserts if they were equatorial?


A really good question! Is it elevation? Or is it methane rainfall? Or is it something else entirely? (Maybe the sand sea basins are "special" and the "normal" surface is like the temperate zones.)

-Mike
dvandorn
Interesting speculation, Mike. I see your point about the similarities between the Xanadu/Fensal-Quivra-Azltan construct and Mars' Tharsis bulge.

However -- just how efficiently could Titan shift its orientation when locked into a tidal resonance with Saturn? Mars spins very fast, relatively speaking, and has a whole lot more rotational energy with which to shift the entire planet onto its side (so to speak). Titan, in contrast, spins very slowly on its axis and has the very deep Saturnian gravity well to deal with. I'd almost believe that tidal attraction from Saturn would supply more energy to such a process than Titan's own rotational energy could provide.

If Titan's mass was redistributed in a manner similar to what happened on Mars, I'd be willing to bet you'd see the thing reach an equilibrium with the "heaviest" part of the mass tidally locked, facing Saturn. Is that what we're seeing here? If not, I have to wonder a bit as to how the mechanism would work...

-the other Doug
Juramike
That's a really good point, David.

Without doing the math (yuk!), I'd guess tidal effects (including eccentricity) would swamp out the rotation rate.

So I'd guess it would make more sense for the Xanadu bulge to be at either the Subsaturn point or at the AntiSaturn point. And at longitude 90-100 W, it's pretty much in the wrong spot.

Now I'm even more clueless.... huh.gif

-Mike
dvandorn
I'm glad I could confuse you even moreso than before, Mark... wink.gif

-the other DOUG (smile.gif)
Juramike
Apologies! I meant "That's a really good point, DOUG".

(With all this new information, the connection between the two hemispheres of Juramike's brain finally snapped. Juramike could never again place the name of an object with it's shape. For the rest of his natural life, Juramike referred to any bowl-like object as "crater" )


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scalbers
Hi again,

I've made a few more map updates and increased the size to 4K. This is also now posted on my regular web site at the following URL:

http://laps.fsl.noaa.gov/albers/sos/sos.html#TITAN

Interesting to see what looks like those long rivers flowing toward the seas of the north pole.
alan
QUOTE (David @ Jun 21 2007, 07:04 PM) *
Very nice!

But it gets me thinking again about the global distributions of different terrains and climates on Titan. The overall picture seems clear: Titan is a semi-desert moon, wet at the poles, very dry around the equator, with an equatorial belt of sand-seas in (it seems) lower terrain. Which raises the following questions for me:

1) Why is the equatorial belt so irregular in shape? Just chance variations in elevation?

2) What constrains the desert belt to north and south? Or to put it another way, what's going on in the temperate zone in terrains that would be deserts if they were equatorial?

Looking at the global view I see three different units: large areas of bright terrain, the dark 'sand seas' forming an incomplete belt around the crater, and below 30 degrees south a gray area.

The gray area appears to have been overlooked in these discussions. Anyone have an idea about why it is it different that the bright terrain with a similar latitude in the northern hemisphere?

Click to view attachment
belleraphon1
Beautiful work ....

Agree that Titan seems to be a desert world but we have to be careful not to carry that analogy too far.
Remember that Huygens detected a lot of methane coming out of the ice/hdrocarbon regolith (smurst?) after it impacted.

I am REALLY looking forward to better views of the southern pole. We need to understand how the the 7 year summer at the south pole has affected the methane cycle and the geochemistry and geophysics in that region as well.

More FUN coming up juramike!!!!!!!!

Craig
Phil Stooke
stevesliva said:

"That's nice!

Although a mercator projection centered at the equator distorts exactly what is interesting at Titan... "



I want to comment on this because I have encountered this elsewhere. The most fundamental cartographic product - and the hardest to make - is the initial global mosaic itself. Once you have it, it can be reprojected into any other form of map with appropriate software. I will post a polar view of Steve's new map later to demonstrate. Don't think of the simple cylindrical map as an end in itself, it's an image database which can be turned into any other map projection, or wrapped around a sphere, or animated... etc. And frankly the simple cylindrical is just about the easiest of those things to make the other products from.

I encountered this with my new Eros mosaic - why make an old-fashioned flat map? Why not project it onto a 3-D shape model and animate it? - but where do you think the mosaic to project onto the model comes from in the first place?

(oh, and yes, it's not Mercator! It's Simple Cylindrical, where a degree is represented by a specified number of pixels in both E-W or N-S directions. In Mercator the N-S spacing varies away from the equator.)

Phil
ngunn
I can't wait for that polar version. I've been hoping someone would provide a south polar map of Titan for ages. I even posted a request on CICLOPS. So far I've only seen it in small PDF format used as a base for the flyby groundtracks.
Phil Stooke
southern hemisphere:

Click to view attachment


Northern hemisphere:

Click to view attachment

Phil
ngunn
Hallelujah!
David
Beautiful, just beautiful. Now that we've seen the radar of the northern region, it's a little easier to interpret the dark markings at the south pole, although it now becomes a matter of wonder why the 'bean-shaped' lake is, not just a lake, but one with such smooth and nicely curved boundaries, unlike both the northern lakes and the other lakes in its vicinity.

I wonder if the "gray" areas in the temperate zones might be -- I'm not sure of a proper terminology that doesn't imply vegetation, but anyway -- swamp, or wetland -- shallow lacustrine regions that are intermittently (seasonally?) dry, or at any rate more like perpetually damp, methanelogged land, than like lakes, thus perhaps being an intermediate term between the polar lakes and the equatorial deserts, which (as suggested above) might be concealing a fair bit of subterranean moisture as well.
alan
QUOTE (David @ Jun 23 2007, 07:40 PM) *
I wonder if the "gray" areas in the temperate zones might be -- I'm not sure of a proper terminology that doesn't imply vegetation, but anyway -- swamp, or wetland -- shallow lacustrine regions that are intermittently (seasonally?) dry, or at any rate more like perpetually damp, methanelogged land, than like lakes, thus perhaps being an intermediate term between the polar lakes and the equatorial deserts, which (as suggested above) might be concealing a fair bit of subterranean moisture as well.

Maybe they aren't perpetually damp. It could be a seasonal change.

I'll stick my neck out and make a wild prediction: after the equinox the gray area in the southern hemisphere will brighten and a new gray area will form in the northern hemisphere.

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