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Tesheiner
Nice view, indeed. I'm wondering if they plan to drive to the *tip* of Cape Desire. blink.gif

This is a 2x2 pancam mosaic of Cape Desire (L2 channel only, half-res):
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Two pointings, probably covering the left part of the cape, are still missing.
Stu
Epic rock at the base here...

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smile.gif
Tesheiner
FWIW, the plan for sol 1061 includes a similar pancam mosaic (6 pointings, L257R2) as this one taken on sol 1060. Then, driving again.

Color stitchers and anaglyph wizards, prepare your tools. cool.gif
jamescanvin
Here is what we have so far:



James
OWW
QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Jan 17 2007, 09:58 PM) *
FWIW, the plan for sol 1061 includes a similar pancam mosaic (6 pointings, L257R2) as this one taken on sol 1060. Then, driving again.

Color stitchers and anaglyph wizards, prepare your tools. cool.gif


Looks like L2 only to me...

Sol Seq.Ver ETH ESF EDN EFF ERP Tot Description
----- -------- --- --- --- --- --- ---- -----------
01061 p1151.04 2 0 0 2 0 4 front_hazcam_idd_unstow_doc
01061 p1154.01 2 0 0 2 0 4 front_hazcam_idd_unstow_doc
01061 p1201.07 2 0 0 2 0 4 front_haz_penultimate_1bpp_pri17
01061 p1212.09 2 0 0 2 0 4 front_haz_ultimate_2_bpp_pri15
01061 p1301.06 2 0 0 2 0 4 rear_haz_penultimate_1bpp_pri17
01061 p1311.07 2 0 0 2 0 4 rear_haz_ultimate_1_bpp_crit15
01061 p1585.00 4 0 4 0 0 8 navcam_cloud_4x1_dwnsmp_RVRAz_calstart
01061 p1962.02 10 0 0 10 0 20 navcam_5x1_az_45_3_bpp
01061 p2137.06 1 1 0 0 1 3 pancam_cal_targ_L2
01061 p2351.09 6 0 0 6 1 13 pancam_cape_desire_longbaseline_6pos_L2
01061 p2352.09 8 0 0 8 2 18 pancam_drive_dir_4cx1r_L2R2
01061 p2600.10 2 2 0 0 2 6 pancam_tau
01061 p2633.01 4 2 0 0 2 8 pancam_late_tau_L58R48
01061 Total 47 5 4 36 8 100
jamescanvin
QUOTE (OWW @ Jan 18 2007, 10:10 AM) *
Looks like L2 only to me...


Yeah, which is annoying as the second mosaic is the right eye of the long baseline and L5&7 are needed for a colour anaglyph to be possible. 'L2 only' should be on the left, JB!

James
Tesheiner
QUOTE (OWW @ Jan 18 2007, 12:10 AM) *
Looks like L2 only to me...


Yup. I stand corrected.
alan
QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Jan 17 2007, 05:30 PM) *
Yeah, which is annoying as the second mosaic is the right eye of the long baseline and L5&7 are needed for a colour anaglyph to be possible. 'L2 only' should be on the left, JB!

James

Couldn't it be done anyway if you viewed the result with the glasses reversed?
Tesheiner
Meanwhile, Oppy moved due north (11m) on sol 1061.
wheel.gif wheel.gif wheel.gif

... as expected. tongue.gif

Navcam pics: http://nasa.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportu...cam/2007-01-18/
climber
QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Jan 18 2007, 03:13 PM) *
Meanwhile, Oppy moved due north (11m) on sol 1061.
wheel.gif wheel.gif wheel.gif

... as expected. tongue.gif

Navcam pics: http://nasa.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportu...cam/2007-01-18/

Would ne nice to test the new software and try to get to the Dock for the week-end wheel.gif . It seams too far actualy. Did you note this darker ("wet") part in front of us?
Tesheiner
> Would ne nice to test the new software and try to get to the Dock for the week-end.

That was exactly what I thought while waiting for the "drive-direction" pancam images. It would be a 30-40m drive, perhaps too much to be exactly at a nice rock in a single drive for IDD work except if using "go & touch".

But it seems to be out of the plans. This is tosol pancam mosaic; the focus is on Cape Desire, meaning that they are planning to drive on that direction tomorrow sol:

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BTW, the panorama is a blast! What a view!

> Did you note this darker ("wet") part in front of us?

Yup. It might be dark sand accumulated there in a similar fashion as Eldorado.
Ant103
Very impressive images there. You're very nice wink.gif

This my own version of Cape Desire :


I can't waiting anymore for the complete imagery set...
Stu
Looking forward to seeing all your true-colour versions of this...

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This is "Stu-colour" wink.gif
jvandriel
Stu,

how is it possible ?

Looking in the direction of the sun and see the shadow

of the cam in front of you. smile.gif

jvandriel
jamescanvin
QUOTE (alan @ Jan 19 2007, 12:26 AM) *
Couldn't it be done anyway if you viewed the result with the glasses reversed?


I did try this once (for a normal anaglyph as most of the blue/green filters are on the left pancam) but for some reason the result wasn't very satisfactory. Maybe I'll have another go with this.
Stu
QUOTE (jvandriel @ Jan 18 2007, 08:34 PM) *
Stu,

how is it possible ?

Looking in the direction of the sun and see the shadow

of the cam in front of you. smile.gif

jvandriel


sigh... well, obviously the Sun is at the top there, and the sunlight is reflecting off Beacon behind Oppy, casting its shadow onto the ground...

(Can't believe I missed that... stoopid stoopid stoopid!!! rolleyes.gif blame it on a ten hr shift at work...! )

Better?

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jvandriel
Very nice Stu. biggrin.gif

jvandriel


Enjoy your work. smile.gif
jamescanvin
I see now that I was getting confused. I was thinking the about the 1058 and 1060 positions as being the long baseline positions not 1060/1, so colour should be possible with the glasses the right way around. Greyscale for now though...

The baseline is very long, it works well for C1/2 (Hoy) area:

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But takes quite a bit of distortion to get Cape Desire viewable:

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James
Greg Hullender
I keep wanting to use some of these beautiful Victoria pics as my Windows Desktop, but I never see anything that's 1600x1200. Are the actual Rover images smaller than that?

--Greg
jamescanvin
Well all the raw images are 1024x1024 but the pans can be huge. For example my version of the Cape Verde pan (the biggest at Victoria so far) is 17039x3000. I'm sure you could resize and crop a whole load of stunning 1600x1200 images out of the mosaics produced so far. smile.gif
CosmicRocker
QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Jan 18 2007, 05:25 PM) *
But takes quite a bit of distortion to get Cape Desire viewable:
Well, I must have a mind that is quite a bit distorted. blink.gif That one popped right into view for me, and it was amazing. I compared it side-by-side with the standard short baseline stereo. The vertical exaggeration (for lack of a better term), really added a tactile dimension to that outcrop. I felt as if I could reach in and gauge the depth of erosion between the laminations with my fingernails, or reach into a crevice, feeling for a loose fossil.
Thanks. smile.gif
jamescanvin
QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Jan 19 2007, 05:11 PM) *
Well, I must have a mind that is quite a bit distorted. blink.gif That one popped right into view for me, and it was amazing.


I probably should have been clearer. What I meant was *I* had to distort the images quite a bit to make a working anaglyph, removing the need for all of you lot to distort your minds too much. blink.gif wink.gif

Glad you enjoyed it.

James
Tesheiner
QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Jan 19 2007, 12:25 AM) *
I see now that I was getting confused. I was thinking the about the 1058 and 1060 positions as being the long baseline positions not 1060/1, so colour should be possible with the glasses the right way around. Greyscale for now though...


Now I'm confused.
Wasn't the images for the long baseline those from the positions as of sols 1058 and 1060? Perhaps the confusion is because they were actually taken on sols 1060 and 1061 but *before* driving?
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On a different topic, tosol activities (1062) seems to be devoted to pancam imaging only. I won't expect another move until sunday/monday (sols 1064/1065).
Floyd
No data down from Opportunity today?
Tesheiner
Can't find any at the exploratorium or the pancam web.
Anyway, it's not the first time. Don't panic. smile.gif
jamescanvin
QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Jan 19 2007, 08:53 PM) *
Now I'm confused.
Wasn't the images for the long baseline those from the positions as of sols 1058 and 1060? Perhaps the confusion is because they were actually taken on sols 1060 and 1061 but *before* driving?


Ah sorry about that, it seems I was even more confused than I realized! I assumed that the images that came down were from the long baseline sequence - and they are clearly from after the drive. But those are in fact the "drive direction" images (I hope they don't!). Still, they made for a good *very* long baseline image.

James
fredk
From the latest update,
QUOTE
Opportunity was scheduled to take a picture of comet McNaught on the morning of the rover's 1,063rd sol, or Martian day, of Mars exploration (Jan. 20, 2007).

How cool can it get?!

Also two new names: Cabo Anonimo = Cape B2, and Guam = Dock of the bay.
Stu
Hmmmm... unsure.gif I doubt the comet will look very impressive from Mars, what with a) Mars being a lot farther away from it than Earth, and cool.gif the comet appearing much closer to the Sun in the sky as seen from Mars than from Earth, but hey, you never know...
jamescanvin
QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 20 2007, 12:08 PM) *
I doubt the comet will look very impressive from Mars,


Maybe it won't *look* very impressive, but the *idea* of seeing a comet at all from the surface of Mars is VERY impressive (to me anyway). smile.gif pancam.gif
jamescanvin
QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Jan 19 2007, 08:53 PM) *
I won't expect another move until sunday/monday (sols 1064/1065).


1064 it is. wheel.gif
CosmicRocker
QUOTE (fredk @ Jan 19 2007, 06:37 PM) *
From the latest update,
How cool can it get?!

Also two new names: Cabo Anonimo = Cape B2, and Guam = Dock of the bay.
Indeed. smile.gif I simply find it amazing that our robotic proxies on another planet, originally designed to be remotely controlled geologists have learned new skills, and are now astronomers as well. Surely it's not just not cosmetic. Having a longer baseline for astronomic observations should add to our knowledge of the orbits, or at least help to better calibrate our instruments.

As for Guam, it just doesn't have the same ring as "sitting on the dock of the bay." I think I'll always remember it with our name.
nprev
I seem to recall an old painting that showed a major comet from the surface of Mars (Bonestell, Ludek Pesek, or William Hartmann?)...selfishly hoping here that the pics of McNaught include some Martian horizon, but I have no idea what the viewing geometry will be.
Stu
QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Jan 20 2007, 01:29 AM) *
Maybe it won't *look* very impressive, but the *idea* of seeing a comet at all from the surface of Mars is VERY impressive (to me anyway). smile.gif pancam.gif


ABSOLUTELY! biggrin.gif Couldn't agree more. I was just commenting on the practicalities, that's all. I had a go simulating it on STARRY NIGHT and to Oppy the comet will be very close to the Sun in a very bright dawn sky...

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but the comet doesn't actually "pop out" until you turn the sky colour off. I suspect it might not be visible, but with that long tail who knows... No-one would love to see an image of a comet blazing in Mars' dusk sky more than me. rolleyes.gif
Stu
QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 20 2007, 07:03 AM) *
I seem to recall an old painting that showed a major comet from the surface of Mars (Bonestell, Ludek Pesek, or William Hartmann?)...selfishly hoping here that the pics of McNaught include some Martian horizon, but I have no idea what the viewing geometry will be.


This one?

Comet above Mars
Bob Shaw
QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 20 2007, 01:08 AM) *
Hmmmm... unsure.gif I doubt the comet will look very impressive from Mars, what with a) Mars being a lot farther away from it than Earth, and cool.gif the comet appearing much closer to the Sun in the sky as seen from Mars than from Earth, but hey, you never know...


Stu:

Mars is Heaven!

o No wet windy weather
o No bloody dew on your optics
o No light pollution (OK, two moons, but they're not that big)
o No midgies (a Scottish version of Black Fly, hell in the summer)
o No nosy neighbours

OK, there are some disadvantages:

o Dust Devils (whoops, er, 'cleaning events')
o No atmosphere


Bob Shaw
Sunspot
Images from Opportunity are down, nothing obvious in them... BUT remember the images we get are contrast stretched considerably, so it might be there in the original.

http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...cam/2007-01-20/
Phil Stooke
I used those new images to look instead at the distant hills. This is a composite of all six frames, enlarged 200% and merged. The real data might show some proper detail on the hills.

Phil

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nprev
QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 20 2007, 12:49 AM) *


That's the one; thanks, Stu! smile.gif It's actually by Kim Poor, then.
diane
QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Jan 20 2007, 01:24 AM) *
As for Guam, it just doesn't have the same ring as "sitting on the dock of the bay." I think I'll always remember it with our name.

To be geographically, historically, and pedantically accurate, Magellan landed at Guam in Umatac Bay, his first landfall after crossing the Pacific. Fort Soledad was the Spanish fort built on the point that overlooks the bay.

I think "Umatac Bay" has a nice ring to it, but then I have my own prejudice on this.
jvandriel
Here is the L0 Navcam panoramic view from Sol 1061.

jvandriel
hortonheardawho


This is three of the 9 L4/R1 pairs shot just before sunrise on sol 1063.

I tried a number of processing tricks, but didn't see a hint of McNaught. Looks like the 12 bit data will be required -- if in fact the 2665 observation was an attempt to image the comet.
fredk
Yeah, I can see nothing in Spirit's attempt as well. Lost in the dusty haze of twilight. But the good news is McNaught's elongation from the sun is increasing rapidly now (for Mars too) and if it doesn't dim too rapidly and if the rover team decides so, we may get another chance.
Tesheiner
Oppy drove again on sol 1064 (navcams, pancams).

It was a very short drive (~4m) northwards and looks like it was prematurely aborted. unsure.gif
Both the navcam and pancam mosaics which are taken *after* the drive is finished are centered at 126º but if you look the pancams there is obviously no further driving path on that direction. My opinion is that the initial plan was to drive by the bay and stop right at Cape Desire.

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antoniseb
Hmmm. I'd expected that they'd make a close inspection of 'the Dock'. My assumption was that it is there because of slippage into the crater, and there might well be some interesting strata there.
Marz
QUOTE (antoniseb @ Jan 22 2007, 02:14 PM) *
Hmmm. I'd expected that they'd make a close inspection of 'the Dock'. My assumption was that it is there because of slippage into the crater, and there might well be some interesting strata there.


I expected the same thing; if the "dock" is exposed from slumpage, then it's mostly unaltered from the impact and would be an easy first sample of upper layer rock that we can be sure wasn't part of the debris apron.

I wonder if the drive aborted because Oppy got nervous so near the edge? ohmy.gif
Tesheiner
I wouldn't rule out the dock yet. It could be the next target after Cape Desire.
Let's see what happens (tomorrow?).
jvandriel
Here is the panoramic view from Sol 1064.

Taken with the L0 Navcam.

Great driving. Very close to the rim.

jvandriel
mhoward
Look at this jutting rock! I hadn't noticed it in the Navcam. Wonderful!
CosmicRocker
QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Jan 22 2007, 02:38 PM) *
I wouldn't rule out the dock yet. It could be the next target after Cape Desire.
Let's see what happens (tomorrow?).
I hope you are right, Tesheiner. If Opportunity does not actually visit the outcrop, I would really like to see some Pancams in its direction at the closest approach. I hate to go out on a limb like this, but that outcrop really looks much like the other ejecta we've seen.
climber
QUOTE (mhoward @ Jan 23 2007, 04:30 AM) *
Look at this jutting rock! I hadn't noticed it in the Navcam. Wonderful!

Probably one of the most unweathered rocks lie...inside
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