Tesheiner
Aug 12 2012, 09:57 PM
Well, my impression is that the trek south, crossing by the east side of Cape York, has started.
Here's a crude navcam mosaic taken on sol 3040. Don't you think this side of the planet is also beautiful?
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Phil Stooke
Aug 12 2012, 10:01 PM
That looks like the next little crater south of the Creek.
Phil
Tesheiner
Aug 12 2012, 10:06 PM
Exactly!
climber
Aug 13 2012, 12:45 PM
We're about 800m or half a mile (as Oppy flies) to Botany Bay.
Tesheiner
Aug 13 2012, 12:51 PM
Here's the "drive direction" pancam mosaic from sol 3040. Path clear.
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SFJCody
Aug 13 2012, 12:56 PM
Cape York seems somehow... diminished. The flashiness of Gale has spoilt me for other parts of Mars!
climber
Aug 13 2012, 01:32 PM
Re drive direction. I don't know if they are little cliffs or just rocks but some interesting features can be already seens ahead.
MahFL
Aug 13 2012, 02:17 PM
QUOTE (SFJCody @ Aug 13 2012, 12:56 PM)
Cape York seems somehow... diminished. The flashiness of Gale has spoilt me for other parts of Mars!
One of the reasons Gale was choosen, and I am sure it was a pretty low down on the list reason...., was the shear spectacular scenery Joe Public could get excited about at Gale.
Still Endeavour is nice and when we climb up a bit it will get better.
Stu
Aug 13 2012, 06:19 PM
QUOTE (SFJCody @ Aug 13 2012, 01:56 PM)
Cape York seems somehow... diminished. The flashiness of Gale has spoilt me for other parts of Mars!
'Diminished'? Hmmm. Tempting maybe to feel that way when we're suddenly faced with a jagged and undulating horizon curving around us, and a towering mountain looming right ahead of us, compared to the gentler hills and slopes of Endeavour. But if you catch yourself feeling that way just remember what Oppy went through to get here. Remember the trials and tribulations she overcame to reach this place. Remember her Lewis and Clark trek across Meridiani, driving from crater to crater, increasingly thick with dust. Then think of the months ahead for Oppy - driving down the flank of Cape York, then rolling off the Cape and across Botany Bay to the foot of Cape Tribulation, and then up...and up... until she's looking down on Endeavour, the crater she was never meant to reach.
Then, trust me, the magic of Endeavour will return to you...
CosmicRocker
Aug 13 2012, 06:25 PM
Then too, Opportunity has a fair chance to spot clay minerals before Curiosity.
stevesliva
Aug 13 2012, 06:26 PM
^ Yeah! I actually didn't think "diminished" so much as, "It's awesome that we're seeing these two fantastic crater vistas at the same time."
SFJCody
Aug 13 2012, 10:06 PM
QUOTE (Stu @ Aug 14 2012, 04:19 AM)
Then, trust me, the magic of Endeavour will return to you...
Just a little humour really. Endeavour still has its not inconsiderable charms. I remain rightly astonished that a machine that all good sense told us would spend a few months trundling around around a sports stadium sized patch of one of the flattest places on Mars is now completely outside its landing ellipse and chasing clay minerals in the rim of a 20km crater with more hilliness than her EDL system was deemed suitable for. Long may whichever Martian deities smile on her continue to do so!
fredk
Aug 14 2012, 02:04 AM
And that's a monster-sized
MER landing ellipse, not one of those tiny MSL ones!
I love this parting shot of the creek:
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...0M1.JPG?sol3041
Errol Coder
Aug 14 2012, 02:20 AM
The recent drives seem to really bring out the crater rim. Seems a bit more distinctive then recent Pancam shots. Would be interesting to see the color composites from 3040+ of the area.
Joffan
Aug 14 2012, 07:52 PM
QUOTE (fredk @ Aug 13 2012, 07:04 PM)
That's a good one. Here's a x-eye view...
Click to view attachmentand here's one across the crater to show that Endeavour can stand comparison with Gale...
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fredk
Aug 14 2012, 10:41 PM
It looks like a drive SSE to the next little crater on 3042:
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...0M1.JPG?sol3042
Phil Stooke
Aug 14 2012, 11:39 PM
That's a nice one... do we have names for these two craters yet?
Phil
Tesheiner
Aug 15 2012, 08:25 AM
The one spot on sol 3040 was named "São Rafael". This last one just N of the current site has no name yet on the DB.
fredk
Aug 16 2012, 12:07 AM
Our first look at the east-facing outcrops on the inboard side of CY:
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...6M1.JPG?sol3043These are the kind of outcrops where the clays will hopefully be found, though probably farther south.
RoverDriver
Aug 16 2012, 02:39 AM
QUOTE (fredk @ Aug 15 2012, 05:07 PM)
Our first look at the east-facing outcrops on the inboard side of CY:
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...6M1.JPG?sol3043These are the kind of outcrops where the clays will hopefully be found, though probably farther south.
Darn it, now that the scenery begins to look interesting I'm on the side of the planet that looks a pancake! :-(
Paolo
walfy
Aug 16 2012, 04:29 AM
A bit more of a drop off than I expected. And that ever-shining beacon of a rock outcrop on the distant mountain!
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Tesheiner
Aug 16 2012, 08:28 AM
Some more info about the craters in the vicinity. This last one, seen on sol 3042, was named "Bérrio" so now it's clear that São Gabriel, São Rafael, and Bérrio were named after
the ships of Vasco da Gama's armada on his first voyage to India.
Click to view attachment
fredk
Aug 16 2012, 02:34 PM
QUOTE (walfy @ Aug 16 2012, 05:29 AM)
A bit more of a drop off than I expected.
Agreed. And dead centre in your anaglyph we can see what looks like another mini Whim Creek feature - a "notch" aligned roughly along the circumference of Endeavour:
Click to view attachmentIf you use your imagination, you can find other similar features farther south.
Julius
Aug 16 2012, 04:37 PM
I recall from CRISM data that there should be phyllosilicates somewhere along the eastern rim of Cape York. How far would Opportunity be from this point in reaching such rocks? Anyone has any idea?
fredk
Aug 16 2012, 05:10 PM
The crism data is pretty low resolution, so the estimates I've heard are very roughly half way down CY.
Julius
Aug 16 2012, 05:22 PM
QUOTE (fredk @ Aug 16 2012, 06:10 PM)
The crism data is pretty low resolution, so the estimates I've heard are very roughly half way down CY.
a couple hundred metres away?
Stu
Aug 16 2012, 05:26 PM
Colour view of the east-facing outcrops...
Click to view attachmentGo get 'em Oppy...
brellis
Aug 16 2012, 09:07 PM
Wow, it's going to get very interesting if Curiosity examines rocks from those time periods while Oppy is looking at equivalent examples a great distance away.
marsophile
Aug 16 2012, 11:24 PM
QUOTE (Julius @ Aug 16 2012, 09:22 AM)
a couple hundred metres away?
It might be that we have already reached outcrops with some phyllosilicates, but the signatures are too weak to be detected by CRISM. The outcrop in view now seems to bear some similarity to those further down.
PDP8E
Aug 17 2012, 02:50 AM
Here are some rocky outcrops on Cape York (Sol 3043) as Oppy and JPL continue the exploration southward at Endevour Crater. The dusty red draped rocks are very inviting...
Click to view attachment... In the lower center, is that a gypsum precipitate ?
Bill Harris
Aug 17 2012, 05:32 AM
That would be my guess, too. I've seen a couple of gypsum veins on this leg of the traverse.
Interesting outcrop area.
--Bill
fredk
Aug 17 2012, 05:18 PM
The east side of CY is turning out to be very scenic:
Click to view attachment
RoverDriver
Aug 17 2012, 11:10 PM
QUOTE (Stu @ Aug 16 2012, 10:26 AM)
Colour view of the east-facing outcrops...
....
Go get 'em Oppy...
Stu SS and I just spend a good 10 minutes in awe at this image. Really cool!
Paolo
Stu
Aug 17 2012, 11:43 PM
Wow, thanks Paolo, great to know that!
TheAnt
Aug 18 2012, 02:10 PM
I'd say thank you for those images also. I do appreciate your work guys!
fredk
Aug 19 2012, 04:37 AM
Maybe a meteorite?
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...0M1.JPG?sol3046It's been a while since we've encountered one.
nprev
Aug 19 2012, 04:49 AM
Maybe. Could be a whole lot of other more mundane things, though. Wonder if they'll think it's worth a stop.
climber
Aug 19 2012, 09:05 AM
QUOTE (fredk @ Aug 19 2012, 06:37 AM)
Maybe a meteorite?
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...0M1.JPG?sol3046It's been a while since we've encountered one.
Hide it, quick, quick, before Stu notice it
Anyway, looking at Eduardo's map, it seams we already passed the outcrop area. Doesn't mean we cannot get back there since SS and Paolo...
Stu
Aug 19 2012, 09:41 AM
QUOTE (climber @ Aug 19 2012, 10:05 AM)
Hide it, quick, quick, before Stu notice it
Too late, already seen it and already planning to add it to the "Meteorites of Meridiani" collection over at the Road to Endeavour Meteorite Museum!
Tesheiner
Aug 19 2012, 09:44 AM
QUOTE (climber @ Aug 19 2012, 11:05 AM)
... it seams we already passed the outcrop area.
Not really. That picture is from a new position (yesterday's drive) which is not yet on the map. Tactical decisions about what to do next will not be taken until tomorrow.
Tesheiner
Aug 19 2012, 05:10 PM
QUOTE (fredk @ Aug 19 2012, 06:37 AM)
Maybe a meteorite?
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...0M1.JPG?sol3046It's been a while since we've encountered one.
Here's the navcam mosaic of this nice site. A meteorite(?) ahead and a gypsum vein just behind.
Click to view attachmentBTW, this was a loooong 100m drive!
RoverDriver
Aug 19 2012, 07:44 PM
QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Aug 19 2012, 10:10 AM)
...
BTW, this was a loooong 100m drive!
SS was SOWG chair on Friday. I wonder if this has anything to do with it
Paolo
MoreInput
Aug 19 2012, 08:41 PM
Added a little more drama by rotating Tesheiners by 6.5 degrees, so that the far horizon is flat. I think Oppy is driving on the steep slope of Cape York, so this view may give a hint how it is feeling to stand there.
EDIT: Why does this meteorite not roll down?
Burmese
Aug 20 2012, 12:26 PM
Article on Opportunity, including pic of Ashley Stroupe planning a drive.
Curiosity is new Mars star, but Opportunity's still knocking
fredk
Aug 20 2012, 02:21 PM
QUOTE (MoreInput @ Aug 19 2012, 08:41 PM)
Why does this meteorite not roll down?
I think you've answered the question yourself - 5 or 10 degrees is not very steep.
NickF
Aug 21 2012, 02:55 AM
Here's the L2 panorama from sol 3044.
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SFJCody
Aug 22 2012, 12:19 AM
A drive sol on 3049. If this is another 100m+er they'll put themselves about halfway down Cape York.
Antonb
Aug 22 2012, 12:21 PM
Now that Oppy is rolling again, she's getting close to 35km total odometry. That's 95% of the current 37km record for the longest distance of surface travel of any extra-terrestrial vehicle, set by the Russian rover Lunokhod 2 in 1973.
This quick sketch (cropped from a
NASA Geological Map) shows that Oppy will reach 36km around Nobby's Head, and set a new record somewhere near the base of Solander Point.
Although Oppy has just raced over 100m/sol, putting the record in theory within 20 sols, there's bound to be interesting targets along the way. An average of 25m/sol means the record will be broken on sol 3130. Anyone else care to hazard a guess?
Click to view attachment
Antonb
Aug 22 2012, 12:39 PM
QUOTE (Antonb @ Aug 22 2012, 01:21 PM)
That's 95% of the current 37km record
By the way, I do hope that breaking this record is on the list of remaining targets for Oppy to achieve. She richly deserves to hold this distance record, and it throws the gauntlet down to Curiosity just as her own wheels start to roll.
climber
Aug 22 2012, 12:54 PM
Thank you Antonb. For the one that looks for more infos, see in "Statistics thread (post #223)":
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...3705&st=210
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