Quick anaglyph... not much depth of field I'm afraid... sorry...
Shaka
Oct 9 2008, 08:45 PM
Yes, I'll go with Endurance, at least until Tesh shows us on the orbital map. I shouldn't have trusted my memory without checking a map.
Bad! (raps own knuckles)
climber
Oct 9 2008, 08:51 PM
I'm not longer from you side, Shaka.
There's no way on Ear... er, Mars we can see Endurance from where we are. When coming to Victoria, I've understood that the near side was higher than the far side so I guess we are a little bit going down at the moment and Endurance disapeared from view a looong time ago. Let see what the specialists have to say.
marswiggle
Oct 9 2008, 08:56 PM
Yes it's true it cannot be the Beacon, on Cape St Mary, which is outside of the frame. But also not Endurance, instead it's one of those hefty drifts at the 'lip' of Duck Bay. In the stitched image you can see several similar but smaller dunes framing the various bays of Victoria. (It's somewhat amazing to me that on Mars the biggest dunes always tend to gather themselves on the highest spots of the local topography.)
Tesheiner
Oct 9 2008, 09:02 PM
QUOTE (marswiggle @ Oct 9 2008, 10:56 PM)
... instead it's one of those hefty drifts at the 'lip' of Duck Bay.
Exactly.
QUOTE (peter59 @ Oct 9 2008, 10:08 PM)
When I saw that picture I said: What the hell!!! Are we going IN again?!?
Must check the latest mobility info but it seems we are on the next cape following Victory. Does it have a name?
Edited: Check the
latest map update.
djellison
Oct 9 2008, 10:02 PM
QUOTE (BrianL @ Oct 9 2008, 08:45 PM)
Is that a crater rim sticking above the horizon in the middle frame?
It's the dune that was at the entry to Duck Bay.
alan
Oct 10 2008, 02:35 AM
Tesheiner
Oct 10 2008, 05:32 AM
What a view!
Click to view attachment (Created with MMB & Hugin)
Astro0
Oct 10 2008, 05:38 AM
Some nice details in the shadows of that Cape.
Click to view attachment
CosmicRocker
Oct 10 2008, 06:11 AM
It is fascinating to see how differently the new capes appear to us. They are driving very quickly these days. I guess we need to move our eyes southward as we catch a few last glimpses of lovely Victoria.
Ant103
Oct 10 2008, 08:12 AM
The view in full res
It's a very impressive place which is remembers me Valley Without Peril
Astro0
Oct 10 2008, 10:22 AM
Nice work Ant and Tesh. Here's my shot at this
view.
Astro0
mhoward
Oct 10 2008, 01:33 PM
QuickTime VR version (2.3 MB) of the Sol 1674 view (done using MMB and PTGui). The initial view direction is north.
climber
Oct 10 2008, 01:33 PM
Do yu think we could see Oppy's path at Ducks bay ?
Actually, Duck's Bay is seen over the tip of the previous Cape in the panorama, right?
Ant103
Oct 10 2008, 03:23 PM
A little hard to have a good result, and I think it's pretty good.
The same pano but in stereo
(Hugin&Gimp
)
fredk
Oct 10 2008, 03:41 PM
What a spectacular view! Thanks for the pans, guys. What a beautiful spot to say farewell to old Victoria...
Here's an attempt at cleaning up the nice navcam cloud sequence from sol 1669. It's basically each frame divided by the average of all six frames, then tweaked a bit:
Click to view attachment
ElkGroveDan
Oct 10 2008, 06:03 PM
What the heck is that data drop out in the upper corner? The mother ship?
fredk
Oct 10 2008, 06:23 PM
Mother ship, hah!
Actually, if you look at the original jpegs, they all have zero pixel value in that corner. Those jpegs are stretched, so the brightest pixel becomes 255 and the darkest pixel becomes 0. So that corner isn't really black, it's just the darkest part of the navcam frame (and probably not much darker than other parts, really). So when I flatfielded by taking the ratio, I just set 0/0 to black. There will definitely be much more detail in the raw images.
mhoward
Oct 10 2008, 10:57 PM
Going back a bit, here's the completed
Sol 1666 Navcam panorama in QuickTime VR (now 2.7 MB).
fredk
Oct 11 2008, 04:00 PM
I'm crazy about
this particular sol 1674 navcam frame. Here's an anaglyph version:
Click to view attachmentLet's soak up the dramatic scenery while we can...
mhoward
Oct 11 2008, 04:09 PM
Look at all that bedrock:
Edit: increased the brightness to bring out some detail.
Tman
Oct 11 2008, 04:45 PM
QUOTE (climber @ Oct 10 2008, 03:33 PM)
Do yu think we could see Oppy's path at Ducks bay ?
Actually, Duck's Bay is seen over the tip of the previous Cape in the panorama, right?
I think it is visible in that Pancam image
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...CUP2361L2M2.JPG
jamescanvin
Oct 12 2008, 05:23 PM
I've been getting a little behind worrying about the ripples further south. Just catching up with the last couple of colour mosaics.
Sputnik
And Cape Pillar
(Both images link to the same page)
James
vikingmars
Oct 12 2008, 09:10 PM
I could not resist building for you this nice panorama... An impressive view ! Enjoy !
Click to view attachment
SFJCody
Oct 14 2008, 04:50 PM
Does anyone know when the next drive is?
peter59
Oct 14 2008, 05:03 PM
QUOTE (SFJCody @ Oct 14 2008, 05:50 PM)
Does anyone know when the next drive is?
Today.1. What new EDRs from ANY sol were
received on sol 1679?
Sol Seq.Ver ETH ESF EDN EFF ERP Tot Description
----- -------- --- --- --- --- --- ---- -----------
01679 p0633.03 0 0 0 2 0 2 navcam_3x1_az_54_3_bpp
01679 p1211.03 2 0 0 2 0 4 ultimate_front_haz_1_bpp_pri_15
01679 p1311.07 2 0 0 2 0 4 rear_haz_ultimate_1_bpp_crit15
Tesheiner
Oct 14 2008, 07:25 PM
mhoward
Oct 14 2008, 07:40 PM
QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Oct 14 2008, 01:25 PM)
Strange. Not sure why we're suddenly hanging around here, unless maybe it's to take long-baseline stereo of Cape Victory?
And I guess somethings broken in the update process, as Exploratorium doesn't seem to be updating.
Edit: new images down. I guess the pipeline is working after all.
fredk
Oct 14 2008, 09:02 PM
I'd say it is for long baseline imaging.
Unless, of course, they've spotted some festoons!
Stu
Oct 14 2008, 10:46 PM
Tesheiner
Oct 15 2008, 05:28 AM
QUOTE (mhoward @ Oct 14 2008, 09:40 PM)
And I guess somethings broken in the update process, as Exploratorium doesn't seem to be updating.
Edit: new images down. I guess the pipeline is working after all.
Not completely; the hazcams are still missing and they were downlinked before the available navcams. Images from the previous site are missing too.
Edited: Today's imaging plan includes these mosaics but no driving. I
guess the pancam one is for LBS imaging and once finished
we'll leave Victoria for good.
01680::p1900::01::2::0::0::2::0::4::nav_2x1_deckCheck_pri61
01680::p1953::02::2::0::0::2::0::4::nav_1x1_az_180_1_bpp_LUT3_pri57
01680::p2364::19::3::0::0::3::1::7::pancam_Victory_3x1_L2
vikingmars
Oct 15 2008, 08:27 AM
...and once finished we'll leave Victoria for good.What about having the last look at Sofi ("Explorer") crater ?
I'd love to see a last view of Victoria across Sofi before leaving... and see up close the interface between the rims of Victoria and Sofi with some exposed layers on both sides
Click to view attachment
djellison
Oct 15 2008, 09:41 AM
In his DPS presentation yesterday, Steve suggested there would be one stop after this one - (C on the attached image) and then we're gone.
RobertEB
Oct 15 2008, 01:28 PM
QUOTE (vikingmars @ Oct 15 2008, 03:27 AM)
...and once finished we'll leave Victoria for good.What about having the last look at Sofi ("Explorer") crater ?
I'd love to see a last view of Victoria across Sofi before leaving... and see up close the interface between the rims of Victoria and Sofi with some exposed layers on both sides
Click to view attachment I would like to see that as well. It would be interesting to see the impact boundary between the two craters.
AndyG
Oct 15 2008, 02:04 PM
Would the boundary be worth it? Obviously Victoria predates Sofi, and the most recent activity appears to be the erosion and cape-and-baying of Victoria, perhaps by 100m diameter. As Sofi has not yet been cut by the advancing erosion, what benefits are likely in studying the smaller crater?
Andy
Juramike
Oct 15 2008, 02:17 PM
I'd like a stop by Sofi as well.
I think it would be really interesting to get a compare/contrast of Sofi vs. Victoria. Especially to see how the impact rim of Sofi is eroding out into Victoria (how fractured is it? Did the Sofi impact compression make the Victoria side erode faster or slower?).
The potential for dramatic pictures is also worthwhile. Neat angles of Sofi in the foreground with Victoria. (I thought the Sputnik crater images were pretty cool.) And you might get a nice shot of Duck Bay (could we see Oppy's tracks?) from across Victoria.
(Is there a wire I can pull to signal a stop?)
-Mike
djellison
Oct 15 2008, 03:06 PM
If we stop every time someone says 'that's interesting' between here and Endeavour - it'll take 2,000 years, not 2.
vikingmars
Oct 15 2008, 03:18 PM
QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 15 2008, 05:06 PM)
If we stop every time someone says 'that's interesting' between here and Endeavour - it'll take 2,000 years, not 2.
It reminds me :
"133:09:15 Shepard: I don't think we'll have time to go up there."
"133:09:16 Mitchell: Oh, let's give it a whirl. Gee whiz. We can't stop without looking into Cone Crater. (Garbled) everything if we don't get there."
Well... I'm on Mitchell's side !
djellison
Oct 15 2008, 03:38 PM
Cone Crater probably isn't a good example, given that they couldn't really find it and never made it
Put it this way - if I had to make a choice between stop 'C' - and Explorer crater - I would say 'C'. You have to draw a line somewhere, really.
Doug
Tesheiner
Oct 15 2008, 04:00 PM
Oh, we are 100% in back-seat driving mode, aren't we?
Meanwhile, here's Cape Victory as seen by the pancam (L2 filter) "this evening" (sol 1680).
Click to view attachment
ElkGroveDan
Oct 15 2008, 04:12 PM
QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Oct 15 2008, 09:00 AM)
Meanwhile, here's Cape Victory as seen by the pancam (L2 filter) "this evening" (sol 1680).
Quit teasing us. There's nothing we can do about it now.
mhoward
Oct 15 2008, 05:15 PM
QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Oct 15 2008, 10:12 AM)
Quit teasing us. There's nothing we can do about it now.
That's life, I guess. I think the incline is too steep, anyway. At least that's what I'm telling myself
This one suffers from all sorts of compressed JPG and brightness stretching issues, but here's the
QuickTime VR for Sol 1679 so far (2.9MB)
fredk
Oct 15 2008, 06:16 PM
I've long wondered about access to deep layers via some of the eroded capes, rather than the bays. Look at Capes Victory, Frio, and the "backside" of the Beacon (St. Mary). With the new imagery, I estimate the slope leading down towards the tip of Cape Victory at around 15 to 20 degrees, which on the surface sounds drivable. But some of that slope looks like it might be quite rough.
We have to assume that Duck Bay was deemed either safer or more interesting than these alternatives.
marswiggle
Oct 15 2008, 07:25 PM
Whether or not we'll ever see a closeup view of Explorer from ground, we always have the HiRISE imagery. I don't remember seeing anaglyphs of the southern bays and Exp, so I made one myself. (In full res, using PSP_001414_ and 009141_1780)
I have an impression that the bay nearest to Exp is already in the process of eating into the little crater, and thus its present west rim is not anymore the 'original' one, as revealed by its inward deviation and slight dip from the otherwise nicely symmetrical rim.
Also see the unusually sharp edge of the tip of the cape next to (left of) Explorer.
Stu
Oct 15 2008, 07:33 PM
Heck of a view down into VC from the latest stopping place...
Pando
Oct 16 2008, 03:51 AM
With apologies to everyone...
Stu
Oct 16 2008, 08:06 AM
Sofi Crater over
there...
Tesheiner
Oct 17 2008, 09:15 AM
We're heading into the weekend and here're bits of the imaging plan and how I "read" it:
01682::p0617::08::14::0::0::14::0::28::navcam_7x1_az_18_0.5_bpp
01682::p0713::03::6::0::0::6::0::12::navcam_3x1_az_198_3_bpp
01682::p1211::03::2::0::0::2::0::4::ultimate_front_haz_1_bpp_pri_15
01682::p1311::07::2::0::0::2::0::4::rear_haz_ultimate_1_bpp_crit15
01682::p2365::19::12::0::0::12::2::26::pancam_Cape_Victory_3x1_L257R2
01682::p2366::19::12::0::0::12::2::26::pancam_iceland_L257R1
01682::p2367::19::8::0::0::8::2::18::pancam_drive_dir_4x1_L7R1
01682::p2580::21::19::0::0::19::4::42::pancam_superres_Cape_Victory1_L26R12
01682::p2581::21::19::0::0::19::4::42::pancam_superres_Cape_Victory2_L26R12
01683::p2368::19::4::0::0::4::1::9::pancam_LBS_Cape_Victory_pt2_L2Sol 1682 (today): Color mosaic of Cape Victory, followed by driving a bit towards the tip of the current cape (BTW, does it have a name?) and taking the usual post-drive nav/pancam mosaics.
Sol 1683 (saturday): Superres and second LBS mosaic of Cape Victory.
Sol 1684 (sunday): Leave the area.
ustrax
Oct 17 2008, 09:32 AM
Tesheiner, what might be the "iceland" referred in your post?
Tesheiner
Oct 17 2008, 11:41 AM
Dunno until the images are downlinked. Just wait a few hours.
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