RichardLeis
Jun 4 2007, 06:38 PM
babakm
Jun 4 2007, 07:11 PM
QUOTE (RichardLeis @ Jun 4 2007, 06:38 PM)
Hundreds of new images.
Thanks! There goes the rest of the work day.
This one stood out immediately to me.
A "double-ringed" crater close to Oppy in Meridiani with, what looks like, a significant ejecta blanket surrounding it.
RichardLeis
Jun 4 2007, 07:16 PM
You may notice some slowness; our web administrator "flipped the switch" within the past hour and the news about it is starting to get out. Thank you for your patience.
volcanopele
Jun 4 2007, 07:37 PM
It also doesn't help when you get /.'ed
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/04/1842258I knew there was a reason I was working from home today...
djellison
Jun 4 2007, 08:08 PM
er.
wow.
insert expletives here >
Doug
nprev
Jun 5 2007, 01:11 AM
..Good God!...
<writes this month's rent check for swear jar/>...I literally cannot believe my eyes. Babakm is right; gonna save this for the slow times at work!
CosmicRocker
Jun 5 2007, 04:01 AM
Oh, my!
So, what you seem to be telling us is, the information overload which we have experienced as this mission's data has come on-line, has now been multiplied by at least a couple of orders of magnitude. I guess that's a good thing.
Congratulations on the updated site.
Pando
Jun 5 2007, 07:04 AM
Pando
Jun 5 2007, 07:09 AM
Pando
Jun 5 2007, 07:16 AM
Pando
Jun 5 2007, 07:23 AM
Pando
Jun 5 2007, 07:29 AM
edstrick
Jun 5 2007, 07:39 AM
"GURGLE!" "GLUB!"
(Drowing in data)
Bill Harris
Jun 5 2007, 10:02 AM
So, Pando, I presume that you like the new HiRISE site and it's working properly???
Wonderful selection of images to share...
--Bill
Tesheiner
Jun 5 2007, 10:36 AM
QUOTE (babakm @ Jun 4 2007, 09:11 PM)
Thanks! There goes the rest of the work day.
This one stood out immediately to me.
A "double-ringed" crater close to Oppy in Meridiani with, what looks like, a significant ejecta blanket surrounding it.
"Close to Oppy"?
If I did my math correctly, the distance from Victoria to Ada is about 150km!
---------
Victoria: lat=-2.0º, long=354.5º
Ada: lat=-3.1º, long=356.8º
ustrax
Jun 5 2007, 11:19 AM
QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Jun 5 2007, 11:36 AM)
"Close to Oppy"?
If I did my math correctly, the distance from Victoria to Ada is about 150km!
If Doug won't mind can we start planning our route there after we're done with Ithaca?...
centsworth_II
Jun 5 2007, 03:22 PM
Just open a new thread: "After Ithaca..."
Pando
Jun 5 2007, 03:50 PM
QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Jun 5 2007, 03:02 AM)
So, Pando, I presume that you like the new HiRISE site and it's working properly???
Yea, it's one of those "holy sh*t" moments...
What actually works surprisingly well is the Java-based IAS viewer. It allows you to work with full resolution images, zoom in and out, change brightness and contrast, etc., and then save the image. You don't have to download those huge JPEG2000 images at a gigabyte per pop, just click on the QuickLook link under the JPEG2000 for IAS Viewer section. That's just awesome.
akuo
Jun 5 2007, 05:13 PM
The Java viewer is really it! I knew there was a better way to see these images than Zoomify, and this takes the ticket. Thanks to Hirise folks for providing this site, now I can really start enjoying these images.
I also see that the full resolution lossy jpegs are there. Thanks for that too.
helvick
Jun 5 2007, 07:04 PM
The site says that the IAS viewer is not available for Linux - well it works fine for me on Ubuntu.
And all I can say is .. &*%$! !!!! there goes all my time again.
Fantastic.
Bill Harris
Jun 5 2007, 07:23 PM
QUOTE
What actually works surprisingly well is the Java-based IAS viewer... You don't have to download those huge JPEG2000 images at a gigabyte per pop...
Whew, it does work well. I didn't try it right away, I'm soured to the point where "new and improved" ain't always so.
--Bill
jaredGalen
Jun 5 2007, 08:20 PM
Has anyone gotten a missing dll error when starting the viewer? It happens every time I try and either open something with an inputted url or started from a link on the site.
It says 'all required dlls were not found' and that msvcp71 was not found in the java.library.path. My java is build 1.6.0-b105. Had a look on the IAS main site but didn't see anything there either.
I'll try it in Ubuntu seein as Helvick got it going, then I'll go looking for the dll. It's just odd.
ElkGroveDan
Jun 5 2007, 09:27 PM
I got that error too on my home machine. Performs OK at work though.
DataMiner
Jun 6 2007, 02:44 AM
QUOTE (helvick @ Jun 5 2007, 12:04 PM)
The site says that the IAS viewer is not available for Linux - well it works fine for me on Ubuntu.
And all I can say is .. &*%$! !!!! there goes all my time again.
Fantastic.
Actually, we just got the update to support linux within the last couple of days, and it took us that long just to evaluate it and decide if it was working well enough for us to include it in the release. I'm especially happy to see this out, although I think that in the long run HiView will be the better tool if we can get all the issues worked out with it.
CosmicRocker
Jun 6 2007, 05:01 AM
I'll ditto others who are saying the IAS viewer is truly amazing. I really tried to break it, but it worked quite well for me. I was so distracted by it that I only glanced at the recent MER images tonight, and I didn't chase down some of the new links we have. All we need now is a map of Mars that links a location to the viewer, or did I miss that?
Pando
Jun 6 2007, 06:58 AM
QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Jun 5 2007, 10:01 PM)
All we need now is a map of Mars that links a location to the viewer, or did I miss that?
This is something, but I'm not sure if it lists everything that was recently released. It also links the images to the old HiRise site, not to the new...
http://marsoweb.nas.nasa.gov/HiRISE/hirise_images/What we need is a terrain model data hooked up to Google Mars, and we can go to town!
Below is perhaps the most stunning terrain I've yet seen on Mars. It would be a totally alien view at the surface level.
Southwest Candor ChasmaClick to view attachment
Lucas
Jun 6 2007, 02:23 PM
Hi all,
Long time reader, first time poster... Thanks to all the UMSF members for sharing such an amazing array of knowledge with the rest of us!
The IAS viewer is truly awesome! Regarding this image:
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_001777_1650 Can anyone pinpoint Spirit's location? Tesheiner maybe?
Thanks!
--Lucas
remcook
Jun 6 2007, 02:37 PM
"possible location"
that seems like a strange title, since they know exactly where it is i hope
centsworth_II
Jun 6 2007, 02:45 PM
QUOTE (Lucas @ Jun 6 2007, 10:23 AM)
Can anyone pinpoint Spirit's location?
It's below the bottom right corner on the image you link.
You have to click on "browse version" on the right side of the
page to get the whole image. Spirit is at the tip of the arrow
on the right side of Home Plate, which is very small in the image.
The horizontal line shows where the image is cut off on the
page you linked.
Click to view attachment
helvick
Jun 6 2007, 04:13 PM
Spirit looks a bit like a boulder when you zoom in but you can clearly see her tracks around the south east of Home Plate and the disturbed bright soil around Tyrone. There's no "possible" about this location unless someone has gone and abducted her in the last few hours.
Lucas
Jun 6 2007, 04:23 PM
QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Jun 6 2007, 07:45 AM)
It's below the bottom right corner on the image you link.
You have to click on "browse version" on the right side of the
page to get the whole image. Spirit is at the tip of the arrow
on the right side of Home Plate, which is very small in the image.
The horizontal line shows where the image is cut off on the
page you linked.
Thanks centsworth_II! With the arrow that you included, "Home Plate" becomes very obvious!
Based on Tesheiner's map for Spirit's ground track, I figured that the rover is at position x=20065, y=26773 in that image. Is that about right?
--Lucas
Not accurate colour in any way, but definitely "My Mars"...
Click to view attachment
ngunn
Jun 6 2007, 09:09 PM
Have you noticed the FACE there, right on the top of that peak. It just gets better at full res!
Does anybody know how to access the images from the releases before February 7th? TRA-images etc? I hope the previous releases are added soon in the search-page.
DataMiner
Jun 6 2007, 10:43 PM
QUOTE (OWW @ Jun 6 2007, 02:58 PM)
Does anybody know how to access the images from the releases before February 7th? TRA-images etc? I hope the previous releases are added soon in the search-page.
The transition and aerobraking images haven't been integrated into the website yet. However, they are available within the PDS volume. If you go to
http://hirise-pds.lpl.arizona.edu/PDS/ and navigate through the RDR subdirectory, you can find the TRA JP2's.
Alternatively, if you open up IAS Viewer and click the button with the blue circle on it (I suppose that's supposed to indicate a world or something), then enter hijpip.hinet.lpl.arizona.edu:8064 into the server field, and click the connect button, then you can browse the PDS volume using the IAS Viewer and selectively load JP2 products directly. However, you have to know what Observation ID's you are interested in. Also, the IAS Viewer doesn't like any other file or image formats at this time. So if you try and open up anything but a JP2 file in the viewer, it will be unhappy.
Thanks. It's too bad that only the full-sized jp2's are available in the PDS-directories. Those QuickLook jpegs are Very nice. I don't see any difference compared to the full-sized version, but they are much smaller.
Oh well, time to buy ten 500 Gb harddrives.
DataMiner
Jun 7 2007, 12:06 AM
QUOTE (OWW @ Jun 6 2007, 04:39 PM)
Thanks. It's too bad that only the full-sized jp2's are available in the PDS-directories. Those QuickLook jpegs are Very nice. I don't see any difference compared to the full-sized version, but they are much smaller.
Oh well, time to buy ten 500 Gb harddrives.
Actually, the quick looks are available there. You can find them under EXTRAS/RDR/blah/de/blahblah
Why aren't they located next to the full bit depth jp2's you might ask? Well, I could tell you, but you'd die of boredom before I got to the end of the explanation. The short answer: It has to do with the PDS volume structure standards... We can't place non-labeled ancillary products in the standard products area of the volume.
CosmicRocker
Jun 7 2007, 03:11 AM
QUOTE (Pando @ Jun 5 2007, 02:09 AM)
Arabia Crater Cliffs - how high is this thing?!
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_002944_1880\ You started me wondering, too. The horizontal distance between the middle peak and its shadow on the floor below is about 810 pixels, or just over 200 meters at the standard 25 cm/px. The Observation Toolbox table for the image also tells us the solar incidence angle is 58 degrees, so the top of the cliff is about 126 meters (414 ft.) above the floor.
Toma B
Jun 11 2007, 11:32 AM
I would like to know what program(s) do you guys use to view those huge images from HiRise , and why...
IAS Viewer that I tried is very good for online and offline viewing but on my computer it can be started only once per sesion (I have to restart comp. to be able to open IAS Viewer again).
What program can you experienced members suggest for me...I have prety low bandwidth...
akuo
Jun 11 2007, 11:46 AM
Toma,
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by above, but IAS Viewer opens any further pictures opened in the same window as the first one. If you don't close the file open in the IAS Viewer, the new image will go behind the first one in its own sub-window inside the IAS window. Just choose the image you want to view from the File menu, or close the first image with the second X button inside the IAS window.
Toma B
Jun 11 2007, 11:53 AM
I know that...but after i close IAS for whatever reason I have to restart computer to be able to use IAS it again.
It is probably the case of "I_need_to_reinstall_windows" but I don't have time to do that now...
Anyway what program do you use ,if any besides IAS Viewer?
akuo
Jun 11 2007, 12:42 PM
Why close it then? :-P
DataMiner
Jun 11 2007, 03:01 PM
Toma,
I would recommend you take a look at our
IAS Viewer support page There's some links there to some support forums created by ITT to support problems with the viewer. I'm not sure how useful they are, but some people from ITT are supposed to be helping to provide support for these kinds of problems there.
MouseOnMars
Jun 11 2007, 09:10 PM
You have to have Java installed properly for the IAS viewer, including it's auto install capability.
When you click on the IAS JPEG 2000 link, the viewer will be installed automagically.
You can open more than one JPEG 2000 in the IAS viewer by clicking on further links !
JPEG 2000's are streamed to the viewer (like mp3 files). The viewer requests data from the server for whatever area you are looking at.
Obvious to anyone who's done it, but not to everyone.
MouseOnMars
Toma B
Jun 12 2007, 07:33 AM
OK thanks!
So I guess you all use IAS Viewer and nobody uses ExpressView, OpenEV, IrfanView or GeoView...
djellison
Jun 12 2007, 08:25 AM
I used OpenEV on my PC for viewing full JP2's that I've downloaded in the past - but now I can't really see the point as the IAS viewer does everything.
Doug
MouseOnMars
Jun 12 2007, 11:41 AM
Hello Toma B,
Yeah, I agree with djellison. The IAS viewer seems to be the way to go, unless you're doing specialised processing or need something specific for an unusual set-up.
MouseOnMars
Tman
Jun 29 2007, 10:29 AM
Did someone find a solution regarding to be not able to start the IAS viewer on some computers (see image below)? I'm still not able to start it on the browser Firefox, IExplorer and Opera!
I run the newest version of Java SE Runtime Enviroment (1.6.0.10) and the Windows XP Professional Version 5.1. I even verified my Java version once again. All other Java applets on the web run to me so far.
MouseOnMars
Jun 29 2007, 12:51 PM
Hello Tman,
That looks like a classic windows dll error. Probably not much to do with your Java. That is an important windows library, if I'm not mistaken. Have checked that it is indeed available in the right path? A google search would probably turn up the same problem that other people have had (put in the dll name, etc).
MouseOnMars
Tman
Jun 29 2007, 02:03 PM
Hi, thanks for your answer!
I did some "google searches" and really there are other problems that have missed that "msvcp71" DLL file as well.
Is it correct that this file must be listed (installed) in the "C:\WINDOWS\system32" file folder and also additional in the "C:\Programme\Java\jre1.6.0_01\bin" folder? Really in both folders the file is missing on my computer.
There is seemingly a website
http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msvcp71 that provides missing DLLs. I guess I will give it a try then.
Btw. my "C:\Programme\Java\jre1.6.0_01\bin" file folder looks currently that way:
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please
click here.