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Shaka
And Oppy has left the buildin'! Is back on the sand, headed southerly and I think I spy with my little eye Mogollon in the distance! biggrin.gif http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...23P0686L0M1.JPG
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Who's got a needle and thread?
jamescanvin
QUOTE (Shaka @ Mar 8 2006, 11:55 AM) *
And Oppy has left the buildin'! Is back on the sand, headed southerly and I think I spy with my little eye Mogollon in the distance! biggrin.gif http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...23P0686L0M1.JPG


Nice wheel.gif wheel.gif wheel.gif

I see the drive number in the filenames is broken again though...
Ant103
Good morning (it's morning now in France...)

I've just made this approximate true color image of a part of Mogollon rim, taken on Sol 748 :
Tesheiner
Here is the forward-looking navcam panorama taken after yestersol (753) drive.

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And this is, imho, the aproximate position after drive.

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(Navcam mosaic taken on sol 742)

I'll wait for the back-looking navcam pics to confirm that and then I guess a polar pan (Phil?) would be helpful in order to plot the actual position on the route map.

Edited: Initial estimation was wrong. Changed the image with a new one.
Nirgal
QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Mar 8 2006, 11:01 AM) *
Here is the forward-looking navcam panorama taken after yestersol (753) drive.

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wonderful view pver the south west of Erebus !

in the mean time I finished another color panorama of the Payson Cliff smile.gif

paxdan
QUOTE (Nirgal @ Mar 8 2006, 10:43 AM) *
in the mean time I finished another color panorama of the Payson Cliff smile.gif

I hope you dont mind but i've created a polar from the pan you colourized.

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Astro0
QUOTE (Nirgal @ Mar 8 2006, 09:43 PM) *
wonderful view over the south west of Erebus !
in the mean time I finished another color panorama of the Payson Cliff smile.gif


Fantastic image Nirgal. smile.gif
I really love your "Alien Landscapes" series.
I think they should produce a coffee table book from these.

It would be great if we could collect all of these poster/book style images in one place.
I think that 'aldo' at marsgeo was going to do something about that?
Hey 'aldo', are you still out there?

Cheers
Astro0
Tesheiner
Imo, this is the best shot (*) taken at/around Erebus.

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(navcam pano taken on sol 753)

(*) I mean the shot taken by the rover, not my panorama!

Phil, could you please make a polar of this?
mhoward
So long, Payson.

paxdan
QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Mar 8 2006, 03:21 PM) *
Imo, this is the best shot (*) taken at/around Erebus.
(navcam pano taken on sol 753)

Here is the pan in polar, i'm sure Phil will do a better job than I.
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Phil Stooke
Anything to oblige, my dear chap... oh darn, Paxdan beat me to it.

So I'll post two versions! The second is derived from the first by using the Spherize filter in Photoshop.

This is a great view, a really nice shot out over Erebus. I bet those dunes are causing some concern, though - that's why I said earlier that spending the winter on Victoria's northern rim was unrealistic. It's going to be a lot of small drives.

Phil

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Tesheiner
Thanks paxdan & Phil, your help is appreciated!

I've just updated the route map.
Additionally, I tried to put some real headings on the sol 753 navcam panorama, based on Phil's polar projection, in order to better locate Victoria (seen or not). Results on its own thread.
SigurRosFan
QUOTE
Imo, this is the best shot (*) taken at/around Erebus.

Oh yes, Tesheiner. It's a fantastic view over Mogollon Rim. Wow!!

Thanks Paxdan and Phil!
Tesheiner
Sticking to the "... and points South" part of this thread's title, here is the sol 753 pancam mosaic with some annotations, in which I tried to correlate some outcrops seen on this pano with what is seen on MOC imagery.

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At some point of the rim, the rover will have to say "adiós" to Erebus and take the long (and tricky, imho) way to Victoria. Which will be this point? B? C? D?

I would say C is a good start point -- there are some reference/waypoint outcrops further south -- but there is not a straight path from B to C.
Bill Harris
I've been mulling over the same issues recently but haven't gotten around to annotating the MOC image. I am in agreement with what you have noted and that the the road away from Erebus will indeed be a sticky wicket.

The problem is that Oppy is getting into a field of orographic dunes (caused by disruption of the wind by the crater rim) and this feature has been to the west of Erebus since we arrived at Olympia. There is not a clear path between points B and C along the rim. Oppy might be able to skirt the dunes by driving on the rim bedrock and rubble/talus but there is a major dune just northwest of point C that may be the major barrier. Otherwise, point C is a good jumping-off point.

The road Southward may involve heading West from this "Payson promontory" to the smaller ripple fields and south-trending linear troughs; this is reminiscent of the good-going when we took that NW detour around the North Erebus Dnnefield. Once Oppy gets away from the rim-dune area of Erebus the path should be clearly one of using bedrock stepping stones and avoiding sandpiles.

I am in favor of taking a few more Sols to look at the slope/bluff at point B to see how it compares with the previously studied exposures.

I'll think about it and work up an annotated MOC map soon, but you're on the right track.

--Bill
Shaka
Mogollon station! Next stop Mogollon station, Track B! Transfer here for Victoria Express.

http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...00P0696R0M1.JPG

Edit: Wow! Now that's what I call a thumbnail and-a-half! rolleyes.gif

1024 x 1024 'thumbnail' removed - Doug
jvandriel
A complete 360 degree panoramic view on Sol 751.

Taken with the L0 navcam.

Look at the wheeltracks.

jvandriel
jvandriel
And the 360 degree panoramic view on Sol 753 and Sol 754.

Taken with the L0 navcam.

Again look at the wheeltracks. It seems that there is a bump during driving.

Maybe the arm causes the unbalance.

jvandriel
Cugel
QUOTE (jvandriel @ Mar 10 2006, 11:11 AM) *
And the 360 degree panoramic view on Sol 753 and Sol 754.

Taken with the L0 navcam.

Again look at the wheeltracks. It seems that there is a bump during driving.

Maybe the arm causes the unbalance.

jvandriel


Jan,

I don't think it's the arm.
It looks like the familiar and regular hazard detection stops.
The rovers never drive continuously, they stop every 20 seconds or so to check if an elephant has jumped in its way.

Groeten uit Bilthoven!
jvandriel
A mosaic of the bedrock on Sol 753.

Taken with the L7 pancam.

jvandriel
Tesheiner
QUOTE (Shaka @ Mar 10 2006, 03:07 AM) *
Mogollon station! Next stop Mogollon station, Track B! Transfer here for Victoria Express.


There is an easy ramp IF they want to go down and inspect this outcrop and then go further SE.
Let's what happens and if we actually take the "Victoria Express" at this station (it may be on the next one).

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(Navcam L0, Sol 755)
jvandriel
A look into the drive direction.

Taken with the L2 pancam on Sol 753.

jvandriel
Bill Harris
I think that Oppy will take the easy off ramp down to the outcrop. This exposure is more of a jumble of rocks than a neatly layered one and also, from jvandriel's Sol 753 Pancam mosaic, the blueberries seem to be back in the bedrock. This is a have-to-peek spot.

I think that Oppy will head due West after this site to that field of smaller ripples and then head southward to Victoria hopscotching bedrock windows. Hopefully, the going will be as good as it was during the North Erebus Detour.

--Bill
Tman
QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Mar 8 2006, 04:21 PM) *
Imo, this is the best shot (*) taken at/around Erebus.

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(navcam pano taken on sol 753)

(*) I mean the shot taken by the rover, not my panorama!


Yeah, even the first mosaic where you can see a round crater-like structure. Definitely Erebus must be a crater or so biggrin.gif
Ant103
In looking those panorama, we see clearly the old of Erebus, formed before Endurance. The ellipse of the crater is under some sand and ripples dunes, contrary to Endurance who is perfectly clean. So, it's the first time we see so better the crater form (but, many sol ago, dunes hide many parts and elements of the crater, this could be the reason why we cannot see it, personnaly).
Bill Harris
QUOTE
QUOTE(Tesheiner @ Mar 8 2006, 04:21 PM)
Imo, this is the best shot (*) taken at/around Erebus.

(navcam pano taken on sol 753)

(*) I mean the shot taken by the rover, not my panorama!


Here is a 3x vertical exaggeration showing the bowl of Erebus, adapted from this pano.

Just to the left of center is the series of bedrock exposures on the north Erebus rim with the "North Erebus Dune Field" left of that. The left background rim is bordered by the Olympia locale. The Payson outcrop is on the left side of the crater and the "Payson Promontory" is in the foreground. On the right side is the Mogollon Rim outcrop and to the right of center in the background is the Vermillion Cliffs exposure.

And that is Ebebus in a nutshell. I'm looking forward to seeing a lookback/lookahead panorama of Erebus and Victoria from the highpoint of the topo rise that Oppy is headed toward.

--Bill
Shaka
QUOTE (Shaka @ Mar 9 2006, 04:07 PM) *
Mogollon station! Next stop Mogollon station, Track B! Transfer here for Victoria Express.

http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...00P0696R0M1.JPG

Edit: Wow! Now that's what I call a thumbnail and-a-half! rolleyes.gif

1024 x 1024 'thumbnail' removed - Doug

I expect to get the hang of these format buttons any year now, Doug. blink.gif
Actually, I was about to paste the URL like you did, when I thought, "Lets see if this Insert Image button works." ohmy.gif So is there a technique for just inserting a thumbnail like the other guys do? (One that even a child can do?)
P.S. Like that red type - very spiffy and attention grabbing!
mhoward
New clouds at Meridian:

dilo
QUOTE (mhoward @ Mar 11 2006, 06:12 AM) *
New clouds at Meridian:

Very impressive mosaic, Michael.
I was already working on these pictures, here below is a gallery of selected images from Sol756, processed in order to see low contrast/high frequence details:
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This is a fantasy color elaboration, where channels correspond to different sharpening levels: Click to view attachment

If I correctly recall, appearance of clouds is a seasonal effect that should affect also MER solar panels cleaning...
jvandriel
A 360 degree panoramic view of Erebus crater.

Taken witth the L0 navcam on Sol 755.

jvandriel
Tesheiner
Oppy seems to have driven down the ramp on sol 757.
wheel.gif wheel.gif wheel.gif

See here: http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...C3P1312L0M1.JPG

BTW, the planned seqs. indicate no post-drive nav/pancams for sol 757 but movement again and panoramas on sol 758.
Bill Harris
QUOTE
OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Hawkeyeing from the 'Half Pipes' - sol 751-756, Mar 11, 2006:


Opportunity is healthy and making its way south along the "Payson" outcrop of "Erebus Crater." The traverse paths are known within the team as "half-pipes," after the popular Olympic event. Last week Opportunity drove along one half-pipe, collecting high-resolution panoramic camera images of the outcrop. (The team calls this "scoot and shoot"). The rover has now left this path, and the team has planned a drive to the next half-pipe. Depending on traversability, Opportunity will either continue its scoot-and-shoot outcrop imaging campaign over the weekend, or start down the road to "Victoria Crater."


That seems to be the current driving plan. These two Mogollon Rim outcrops are just too valuable to pass by.

http://origin.mars5.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/s...tml#opportunity

--Bill
Tesheiner
... and this is the approx. new position as seen from sol 755 pancam.

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Oersted
QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Mar 12 2006, 02:16 PM) *
These two Mogollon Rim outcrops are just too valuable to pass by.

--Bill


Of course we'll need to check them out, but I bet they'll turn out to not be "too valuable to check out". We really need to get out of this less than impressive place...

Funny how blasé one gets, if we think back to the reaction everybody had at the Eagle crater outcrop!
Bill Harris
A "roadcut" exposure like this, on the Plain of the Flat, is valuable because it is a window to subsurface conditions. At a minimum Oppy will do Pancam imaging, but maybe not bring out the handlens and scratchplate.

--Bill
Tesheiner
QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Mar 12 2006, 12:48 PM) *
BTW, the planned seqs. indicate no post-drive nav/pancams for sol 757 but movement again and panoramas on sol 758.


Now that was an interesting move!
On sol 757, driving down to the outcrop indicated on my quoted post, ending the day with a pancam mosaic (pancam_hokan_pm_L7R1).
On the morning of sol 758, repeat the same pancam mosaic (pancam_hokan_am_L257R1) and about noon drive back up the slope to about the same place as of sol 756.

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(Sol 758 post-drive navcam pano)

Edited: This is a crop of sol 757 evening pancam mosaic. Have we seen that kind of layering before? huh.gif
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Some original images: http://nasa.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportu...C3P2364R1M1.JPG and http://nasa.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportu...C3P2364R1M1.JPG
Ant103
QUOTE (mhoward @ Mar 11 2006, 06:12 AM) *
New clouds at Meridian:



Wow, it's very impressive! The sky rendering is very good, that's a good work. Congratulation wink.gif
Astro0
A little item to entertain...
On a thread somewhere we were talking about music for Oppy's travels and the sounds the MERs make.
There was also a suggestion of a panorama-movie too.

Never one to pass up a challenge, there's a rough first go at a little movie of Opportunity at Payson Passage (the half-pipe) on my webpage. File: 1.4mb WMV MyMERSFX
Enjoy smile.gif
Astro0
PS: There's also two new views of Opportunity visiting its heatshield.
Ames
It was here:
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...637&#entry44637

Utterly overwhelming, spine tingling vision.

I am close to tears!

Thankyou Astro0

Nick
Tesheiner
The last drive-direction pancam images (from sol 758) are basically looking South to the dunes sea.

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(The rightmost frame is still missing)

I have the good feeling that the journey to Victoria crater will start on sol 760! biggrin.gif

PS: Once they start driving by the dunes, polar and/or vertical projections will be a *must* in order to have a reliable route map.
Dilo, what about your POV-Ray issues?
mhoward
QUOTE (Ant103 @ Mar 13 2006, 09:17 AM) *
Wow, it's very impressive! The sky rendering is very good, that's a good work. Congratulation wink.gif


Thanks. Let me just add, since I didn't comment on it at the time, that it's not meant to be a great work of art or anything; the main point for me was that it shows the images in their correct position. When I saw those cloud images, I really wanted to know if they were a mosaic and, if so, where they were relative to the local scenery. Turns out the answers are "yes" and "south" respectively. smile.gif I'm sure somebody else could do a much better job stitching the images together.
Toma B
QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Mar 13 2006, 05:52 PM) *
I have the good feeling that the journey to Victoria crater will start on sol 760! biggrin.gif

Why sol760? What's wrong with sol759? Today would be good day to start driving... blink.gif
P.S.
Thanks for the regularly posted maps Tesheiner!!! smile.gif
Tesheiner
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QUOTE(Toma B @ Mar 13 2006, 04:38 PM) *

Why sol760? What's wrong with sol759?
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Nothing wrong, except that the "post-drive" images from sol 758 -- required to plan the next movement -- were not available in time to prepare and uplink the next set of driving commands on sol 759. They must wait for the following sol; it's known as "restricted sols".

PS: I'm assuming sol 760 will be a driving sol; according to the tracking web it's not yet planned.
Toma B
When will "restricted sols" end?
It's been a week or two of "restricted sols" already?
Tesheiner
Wait a minute!

Sol 759 has barely started (it is only 04:30 am at Meridiani), so let's wait and see what happens tosol. At the end you may be right. smile.gif
djellison
If you have two days of consecutive driving, you know you're not in restricted sols. The definition of a restricted sol is one where by Sol n data arrives at a time too late to be involved in the planning of Sol n+1, so mobility planning can only occur for Sol n+2.

Typically, a period of restricted sols lasts about 10 days to 2 weeks.

Sometimes, however, due to bad downlink, missed DSN pass, an error on the rover etc - you can miss a sol or 3 just thru bad luck ( one sol was lost thru because a cable at a DSN dish had been eaten by rodents )

It's 5am 759 for Oppy now - and I'm seing 758 images that show a drive occured.

Doug
Shaka
QUOTE (Astro0 @ Mar 13 2006, 01:12 AM) *
A little item to entertain...
!!! pancam.gif
Enjoy smile.gif
Astro0
PS: There's also two new views of Opportunity visiting its heatshield.

Heehee! Luvitluvitluvit! laugh.gif You liddle bewdy! O.K. now we want the humming to increase in volume as Oppy comes into the frame, then a new buzz as the Pancam rotates to look at the viewer, finally a click and lurch and Oppy heads off and out of frame. We should run up a storyboard.
Hollywood here we come! cool.gif Dahlings!
Astro0
QUOTE (Shaka @ Mar 14 2006, 06:25 AM) *
...O.K. now we want the humming to increase in volume as Oppy comes into the frame, then a new buzz as the Pancam rotates to look at the viewer, finally a click and lurch and Oppy heads off and out of frame. We should run up a storyboard. Hollywood here we come!


OK Shaka, don't get too excited. I'm no Speilberg and my special effects budget extends to whatever freeware I can find and my newly acquired Adobe Premier and After Effects (which I'm still learning as you can tell). I've certainly got plans for more movies, but don't go putting me up for Oscar nominations.

Glad you liked it though biggrin.gif
Astro0
mars loon
QUOTE (Astro0 @ Mar 13 2006, 10:38 PM) *
OK Shaka, don't get too excited.
I've certainly got plans for more movies, but don't go putting me up for Oscar nominations.

Astro0

Nice work Astro0

Well if you show our baby actually moving realistically thru Payson, we may all nominate you for an Oscar

ken
Astro0
QUOTE (mars loon @ Mar 14 2006, 02:42 PM) *
Well if you show our baby actually moving realistically thru Payson...


I don't know about "realistically" but how about 'South Park-style'.
"Oh My God...They Killed (insert name of your favourite failed Mars mission here)!" biggrin.gif

Astro0
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