QUOTE (Doc @ Jan 15 2008, 08:24 AM)
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Balloons are fine but has there been any talk on the prospects of using plane probes.
Yes.
see my discussion of the topic in LPSC and (more detailed) in JBIS almost 10 years ago
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/LPSC99/pdf/1088.pdfhttp://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~rlorenz/jbis.pdfIndeed UAV technology has made remarkable strides in recent years, as the missile-toting
Reapers attest.
But there are two big classes of issue
1. reliability - this entails substantial guidance autonomy without the benefit of GPS (on which
almost all terrestrial UAVs rely) - if you have a cpu glitch, your plane might flip and its all over.
There is also the doa-ble, but nontrivial, issue of deployment from entry shell or whatever.
2. fundamentals of energy and power.
Heavier-than-air flight requires power (whereas LTA requires less - Montgolfiere - or none - buoyant
gas) There is an interesting airship/plane tradeoff depending on how fast you need to fly and how
much payload you need
see e.g.
http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~rlorenz/flightpower.pdfIn the thin Mars atmosphere HTA is particularly challenging - low density requires high flight
speed and thus high power, hence only chemical propulsion (and therefore very limited lifetime)
I think there was one solar mars airplane study, but you need very low wing loading.
A lot of this all comes down to whether you are doing it because it is cool, or to answer what have
been determined to be major scientific questions.
I agree with Doug, an airplane mission of a few hours is exciting, but is it $400M-worth of science?
As a stand-alone, I think it may not be. I think any of these platforms (plane/balloon or
whatever) has to be part of a larger architecture to be viable from a risk/cost/science perspective -
you will note even the VEGA balloons were part of a lander/flyby mission.
Titan is a bit easier, since low gravity and the thick atmosphere both help you, but you are still talking
about hours or a day or two chemical or battery. Current-generation radioisotope sources do not have
the power:weight to fly in a compact package - maybe Gossamer Albatross kind of wing-loading, but then
you have severe packaging/deployment issues. (Remember to sell a mission you are not about
demonstrating that it is possible, but demonstrating that there is no way, really, really no way, that
this can go wrong..)
Now, a small battery-powered UAV to fly for a few hours around a Titan lander would be a neat and
in fact inexpensive add-on to a lander mission (it doesnt answer major scientific questions, but would
give some very pretty imagery, boundary layer profiling etc. - a good 10^6 or 10^7 dollar kind of
project - basically a special class of instrument.
Some of the nuclear gang have pointed out (irrelevantly as far as the present Flagship discussion is
concerned) that presently-unavailable nuclear-thermal sources could provide non-stop flying
capability at Titan - see the Howe/Young presentation at OPAG. In principle that could give you
global access, although an airplane is tougher from a surface-sampling standpoint than a balloon
might be (yes, yes, you can have sampling penetrators, little helicopters etc..... meet my friends
on the TMC review panel..)
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/opag/nov_2007_meet...clear_plane.pdf(actually Bob Zubrin proposed related ideas a decade ago..)