um3k
Dec 4 2006, 10:56 PM
Whoa! very neat images..
Nico
kenny
Dec 4 2006, 11:10 PM
Thanks for the pointers! Incredible..... Viking 1 is actually in color!
Rakhir
Dec 4 2006, 11:13 PM
Wow !
Phil, you can now compare the Vikings positions with your maps
EDIT : Congratulations,
very accurate for Viking 1 !
kenny
Dec 4 2006, 11:31 PM
A few hasty last-minute corrections to the Atlas, perhaps.... ?! Looking forward to it.
Sunspot
Dec 5 2006, 12:02 AM
Some of the rocks around the lander might be visible - Adirondak?
kenny
Dec 5 2006, 12:32 AM
I don't think that's correct, Sunspot. The rocks you point out are too close to the lander to be Adirondack, and anyway I think Adirondack is to the east of the lander, not the west. However I've no doubt we'll be able to sort a lot of this out now with these wonderful images
Kenny
akuo
Dec 5 2006, 12:48 AM
I think Sunspot is correct. At least I figured Adirondack was the bright pixel too. Clearly Sleepy Hollow is easily recognisable in the Hirise image, and the very small hollow (with the "mud" as we might recall) is also visible next to the lander. We can figure the rock positions in relation to the hollows, and I think they match.
Also Spirit did egress roughly west and drove almost directly to Adirondack. After which it circled the lander counter-clockwise and started the joyrney northeast.
kenny
Dec 5 2006, 12:58 AM
Is Andirondack really less than one lander diameter from the edge of the lander? I looked at the rear Navcam view but was perhaps misled by the extreme wide angle. If so, perhaps I was too ready to doubt those more knowledgeable!
Shiny heat shield from rim of Bonneville….
Heatshield from Bonneville rimThe heat shield impact left a black streak mark visible from orbit by MGS (2-view animation)….
Heatshield impact from MGSNow it appears to have almost completely faded away…
HiRISE Bonneville heatshieldKenny
Phil Stooke
Dec 5 2006, 01:04 AM
Sunspot is correct. 1 is the rock Sashimi, 2 is Adirondack.
Phil
John M. Dollan
Dec 5 2006, 05:06 AM
Does anyone know if they'll try to image the old Russian landers? I think three of them made it to the surface, though only one transmitted after landing (about 20 seconds if I recall).
...John, amazed at these new images...
tuvas
Dec 5 2006, 05:31 AM
I've heard a rumor that one is a potential target, but I can say that it will be very difficult. Even more so as landers tend to land in more boring areas, to avoid big rocks (MSL will be able to avoid that, that'll be really nice;-) But I'm sure at some point during our stay at Mars we'll take some pictures that are in the landing ellipses of the landers, and maybe we'll learn the truth of them... Hmmm.
John M. Dollan
Dec 5 2006, 05:50 AM
Any finding would certainly be fascinating. But then, all of these images are fascinating!
...John...
climber
Dec 5 2006, 06:36 AM
QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Dec 5 2006, 02:04 AM)
Sunspot is correct. 1 is the rock Sashimi, 2 is Adirondack.
Phil
Phil, you're able to see details I can't. I'm not sure but I feel that at least one of the airbag track is visible. In the absolute, if they had not faded away, they could be visible because of different albedo, don't they?
djellison
Dec 5 2006, 07:44 AM
I would certainly tick the box for both Sashimi and Adirondak...spot on.
Doug
Sunspot
Dec 5 2006, 09:36 AM
QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Dec 5 2006, 01:04 AM)
Sunspot is correct. 1 is the rock Sashimi, 2 is Adirondack.
Phil
Being able to see Adirondack is good news....I think it means we should be able to spot the little Sojourner rover at the MPF site?
ugordan
Dec 5 2006, 10:11 AM
QUOTE (Sunspot @ Dec 5 2006, 10:36 AM)
Being able to see Adirondack is good news....I think it means we should be able to spot the little Sojourner rover at the MPF site?
Color would be even better as Sojourner surely has a different spectra to it than the rocks. Since MPF location is prety much nailed-down, getting the lander in the center of the camera FOV which has color CCDs
should be easy.
BTW, kudos to the HiRISE team, these lander images are really awesome!
J.J.
Dec 5 2006, 02:48 PM
I've waited a long time to see unequivocal images of the Viking landers, which remain special darlings of mine.
Thanks much for posting, and mad props to the HiRISE team.
Adam
Dec 5 2006, 03:12 PM
Wow, really loved the Viking 1 image with the dust-covered parachute! Great job releasing these so fast!
deglr6328
Dec 5 2006, 11:08 PM
Gobsmaking.
Just what kind of resolution IS that on the MER A lander rock identificaton image? It must be approaching ~15-20cm/pixel.
djellison
Dec 5 2006, 11:17 PM
Well - it's projected at 25cm/pixel - the actual image was 27.1cm/pixel
Adirondack was actually - about that size... 25 or so cm across, now - it's probably not right to say that adirondack has been 'resolved' - but it's certainly contributed enough to one or more pixels to make itself visible.
Doug
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