Phil Stooke
Nov 24 2006, 09:41 PM
At last I've been able to do something I have tried to do for quite a few years now - find the full resolution digital Viking 2 panoramas. Viking 1 pans are on the Photojournal. Viking 2 pans were not. But I found them by luck and persistence, on CD-ROMs in PDS.
Go to:
http://pdsimg.jpl.nasa.gov/data/vl1_vl2-m-...2012_sddpt/fns/and the full pans are in the directories numbered 19 to 24. Earlier directories contain the same pans in sections. This file:
http://pdsimg.jpl.nasa.gov/data/vl1_vl2-m-...ex/rng_info.txtis an index to the CD contents.
The files are not in a convenient format - presumably they are VICAR format, but without headers. By trial and error I got the file sizes and opened them as raw images in Photoshop. The full-length pans are 8570 pixels by about 1800. Some postings will follow.
Phil
scalbers
Nov 24 2006, 11:04 PM
Phil,
Glad to hear you have located the hi-res mosaics from VL-2. These are apparently later versions of the mosaics I worked on while at JPL from 1976-77. I had only saved hard copy prints/negatives from this work, so it's interesting to see you located them in digital form.
tedstryk
Nov 24 2006, 11:07 PM
QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Nov 24 2006, 09:41 PM)
At last I've been able to do something I have tried to do for quite a few years now - find the full resolution digital Viking 2 panoramas. Viking 1 pans are on the Photojournal. Viking 2 pans were not. But I found them by luck and persistence, on CD-ROMs in PDS.
Go to:
http://pdsimg.jpl.nasa.gov/data/vl1_vl2-m-...2012_sddpt/fns/and the full pans are in the directories numbered 19 to 24. Earlier directories contain the same pans in sections. This file:
http://pdsimg.jpl.nasa.gov/data/vl1_vl2-m-...ex/rng_info.txtis an index to the CD contents.
The files are not in a convenient format - presumably they are VICAR format, but without headers. By trial and error I got the file sizes and opened them as raw images in Photoshop. The full-length pans are 8570 pixels by about 1800. Some postings will follow.
Phil
I wish you had asked me about that...I had seen those, but had no idea what to dowit them. Plus, although the format is frustating, it was my understanding that the files found
here are full resolution.
Phil Stooke
Nov 24 2006, 11:19 PM
Ted, the full resolution images your link goes to are the individual frames, not the full mosaics. They use small versions of the mosaics as a sort of browsing or indexing tool, but you don't get the mosaics. But the files I got are the original mosaics. They come in morning, noon and afternoon illumination versions, for each camera. The index page I linked to says - if I understand it right - that there are polar versions too (edit - no, it's stereo images, not polars).
Phil
Here's one pan, full size but very compressed (by me)
Click to view attachment
scalbers
Nov 24 2006, 11:29 PM
Yes indeed, there were three mosaics for VL-2 as compared with just two for VL-1. There was one of the VL-2 mosaics previously posted on the MSSS site, so you have found a more complete set. A summary of what I had previously known about these mosaics can be found at this URL
http://laps.noaa.gov/albers/viking.html
Phil Stooke
Nov 24 2006, 11:47 PM
These are higher resolution than the MSSS set, and they have the tilt corrected.
Phil
OWW
Nov 24 2006, 11:52 PM
Don't know if this one has been mentioned before:
http://www.solarviews.com/cap/mars/vlmos2c.htm
Phil Stooke
Nov 25 2006, 12:05 AM
That's a really nice pan, but it is only one of the views (the 'new' ones give stereo and different lighting), it's not a full 360 (which you can only get by combining pans from both cameras), and it's copyrighted, whereas these are not.
Phil
Ian R
Nov 25 2006, 01:22 AM
Working on your new book Phil?
Phil Stooke
Nov 25 2006, 01:52 AM
I'm just wrapping up the documentation on the old one. and, yes, looking ahead to the new one.
Phil
Indian3000
Nov 25 2006, 09:06 AM
I think that the files that you seek are here in TIF format
http://pdsimg.jpl.nasa.gov/data/vl1_vl2-m-.../vl_2011/hires/
Phil Stooke
Nov 25 2006, 01:58 PM
Hmmm - so they are! Thanks. If you follow the 'parent directory' links back you just get to the Imaging node home page. but I can't see the link that would go in the opposite direction from that page. So I never found this before. But it's very nice to have them in that format.
And there looks to be other good stuff in those links on the data page as well...
(edit - for instance, the Clementine link includes the graphic-based browser for Clementine basemap mosaics, long gone from its original host)
So, Indian3000, may we ask you to perform some of your magic with these Viking panoramas? Vertical projections would be interesting to see.
Phil
MizarKey
Nov 25 2006, 05:49 PM
Wow, thanks for the image links and bringing them to our attention. It looks pretty obvious now that Viking 2 landed in a 'blueberry' strewn area. If there had been an MI on the trenching arm we would have known of them back in the 70's and they wouldn't have been such a big surprise when Oppy saw them all over.
PhilCo126
Nov 25 2006, 07:04 PM
Which book are You planning Phil ? Always looking forward to new books on the subject of unmanned spaceflight and planetary exploration
Phil Stooke
Nov 26 2006, 02:38 PM
I replied privately to PhilCo126, but I'm working on atlases of exploration of Venus and Mars.
Phil
Phil Stooke
Nov 27 2006, 07:04 PM
I made a composite of the panoramas, using one as a base and parts of the others to fill the missing horizon segment and areas hidden by masts etc. Then I made a polar version of the composite panorama. Here it is:
Click to view attachmentThis is rotated a bit clockwise from north at the top.
Phil
ElkGroveDan
Nov 27 2006, 07:20 PM
That's astounding work Phil!
(Now where's the anaglyph?
)
Indian3000
Nov 27 2006, 09:36 PM
still some lines of code and projections verticals will be there…
but while waiting .. some images
lander 1 camera 1
Click to view attachmentand a small screenshot, just add file and projection are create ...
simple ...
Click to view attachmenta linear polar projection ...
Click to view attachment
Indian3000
Nov 27 2006, 09:41 PM
Phil Stooke
Nov 28 2006, 01:59 AM
Nice! And these images have lots of scope for anaglyph-makers too...
Phil
OWW
Nov 28 2006, 05:16 PM
Should be cool if these images could be imported into the midnight mars browser. The Viking sites in the 3D-bubble viewer. Yum Yum.
Indian3000
Nov 28 2006, 06:42 PM
you can use FSPViewer ... my panorama are in 360 x 180 °
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