pds archive, changes in the archive |
pds archive, changes in the archive |
Dec 5 2014, 07:29 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 890 Joined: 18-November 08 Member No.: 4489 |
has anyone else noticed that the pds archives are WORSE than the used to be
the imaging node's ftp is dead and the NEW and "?? improved ??" pds atlas search III is a bit of ( well something unspeekable that comes out the rear end of -- something-- ) http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/search/ there is NO zip archive download and the wget script --- ??? it you can get it to work ????? gives you a script that is ZERO BITS in size i do miss the 2 min wait of the light blue "over coloring" of the -- "please wait" of the atlas search II now the FTP page for the PDS geoscience is still working ftp://pds-geosciences.wustl.edu/messenger/ but the image node is ........... someplace now i AM trying to be -- shall we say colorful but not nasty |
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Dec 5 2014, 07:38 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 890 Joined: 18-November 08 Member No.: 4489 |
i hate "auto complete / auto correct "
QUOTE chances in the archive is CHANGES !!!!! |
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Dec 5 2014, 09:52 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2346 Joined: 7-December 12 Member No.: 6780 |
Today a new PDS release is scheduled to be provided.
I guess, the servers have been busy, and probably not double-buffered. Installation/migration can take some time. |
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Dec 5 2014, 02:34 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10231 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
You're right, John, it's not as easy to use. But the changes to Map-A-Planet are nothing short of catastrophic. You have to register ( a real nuisance if I want a class full of students to use it), and when I specify a data set, lat-long boundaries and resolution, I don't get to see the image - it can only be obtained via FTP, after waiting an hour or two for an email, which makes iterative modification of the boundaries unbelievably inefficient. I can't believe they would change such a powerful tool into something so clumsy. And yes, I did tell them.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PDF: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Dec 5 2014, 05:10 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 890 Joined: 18-November 08 Member No.: 4489 |
having a whole class have to register... yuck
now for a OLD protocol like telnet and using it for horizons ( a email address "123@123.com" works ) that is a bit expected . right now i am having to use "wget" to grab the messenger RGB 8 band data ftp'ing it would have been nice hopefully the issues with ftp are temporary i do NOT want to have to use http for the HIRES messenger gridded data |
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Dec 6 2014, 02:55 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 27-February 08 Member No.: 4059 |
QUOTE changes to Map-A-Planet are nothing short of catastrophic Ouch But keep the comments coming - we are listening and if possible we can try to figure out how to roll some changes in. We imagine the original MAP will stick around as long as the server stays healthy. For some long-time MAP users it is going to be hard to transition to MAP2. We had to make some compromises on the interface to support more robust features. Remember, the over-arching goal for both MAP and MAP2 is to make science-ready data available for download. The fact that the almost 10 year old (second version interface) for MAP is so beloved was a little bit of a shock for me. Hats off to the original USGS designers (who are no longer with us - no they are not dead). For MAP2 our goals were to:
In regards the login system, we know it can be an annoyance. But besides it allowing us to better help users and tally popular use cases, it will eventually allow you to recall previous settings and share settings with others. But feel free to share one login/password with a group or classroom. Other benefits include allowing us to eventually support "domain-specific" jobs for users (e.g. recommended settings for GIS apps or Matlab users) and the same login will also get you access to POW (our single image processing service which runs on our cluster for you, also helps to learn ISIS3). We have considered "guest" accounts for pipeline and anonymous usage but users will still need to provide an email address. I hope this helps explain some of the decisions we made. Again, feel free to post comments, especially if you find issues or have a data/capability wish list. If you are missing the interactive part of MAP, then this post might help. Open up the WMS layers in one of a dozen+ applications or create your own OpenLayers map to see the glorious 500GB Kaguya Terrain Camera Ortho mosaic in full-res (~7m/p). Process some images in POW and then add them on top of a downloaded MAP2 base or live planetary WMS layer in QGIS! Pretty cool. -Trent |
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Dec 9 2014, 04:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3648 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
I don't like the new Atlas III search. While I can see where the idea of streamlining the interface comes from, it is currently pretty broken. For Cassini, I can't figure out a way to specify a filter combination (one of the nice things they added in the previous installment of the search engine) and the interface doesn't seem to work when I search for a specific PDS product filename like "N1757515197_1.IMG".
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Dec 13 2014, 01:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 21-December 07 From: Clatskanie, Oregon Member No.: 3988 |
I was just browsing the new PDS release for MSL in the notebook, and it appears that all the DRCL and DRCX data products have now been white balanced arbitrarily it looks like. What happened to the original MSSS color corrected images? Why has the color changed?These are awful!
EDIT: So.. after downloading a few IMG's, they still appear to be the same color corrected products. Is this white balancing of the preview images another attempt to make the images more viewable to the public? |
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Dec 13 2014, 05:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2542 Joined: 13-September 05 Member No.: 497 |
I was just browsing the new PDS release for MSL in the notebook, and it appears that all the DRCL and DRCX data products have now been white balanced arbitrarily it looks like. ... Why has the color changed? Hasn't the notebook always been this way? I'm sure somebody thought it was a good idea. As data producers we have no control over how the notebook is implemented, so complain to Wash U. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Dec 14 2014, 09:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 890 Joined: 18-November 08 Member No.: 4489 |
the search 3 seams to be working a bit better
wget scripts are being made however the animations ( exploding close ) that "compz-fusion" gtk eyecandy is "cool" for about 15 min. ( think of Microsoft's " Clippy" the paper clip help bot ) i do need to double check on the voyager pds archive is being used it was using sending IMG with ATTACHED headers instead of the IMQ compressed std format |
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